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A cameo proof Merc. You don't see too many of these around!

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    nOoBiEeEnOoBiEeE Posts: 1,011 ✭✭
    Coolie, never seen one before...I like itimage
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    jomjom Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going to have to remember to take a look at that one Thursday at the show. They are a very rare bird for sure...although, I think the half and nickel are rarer in Cameo for those proof series years.

    The picture, however, does NOT look like a cameo...but since Heritage photos generally suck that isn't a suprise. image

    jom
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    JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557
    Cool! image and the Reverse is a little rotated! image
    -George
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a beautiful Merc, but it ain't a "jump-out-and-grab-you" cameo. More like a PCI cameo. image

    Kinda makes me wonder why they would give that dime a cameo, and not this British half-sovereign, which I just sold to
    another forum member. (The half-sov is in an NGC PR64 non-CAM holder, and it's not an old holder, either-
    it's from the current generation, so I know they could potentially have given it a CAM when they graded it.)

    imageimage

    (The scratches, BTW, were in the plastic.)

    $650 for a 111-year-old piece of proof gold with a mintage of 773 pieces. Viva le Darkside!

    Sorry for the thread hijack. I just couldn't help comparing that NGC CAM with this one.
    Then again, there's no telling what that Merc's contrast looks like in person.
    It might have more contrast when you tilt it and so on.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

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    There's zero cameo on that mercury dime, but the slab says so, so ofcourse it will go for big bucks.
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Well according to Russ (my hero) if NGC says it's a CAM, it's a plain coin and is 1 point overgraded. So by the Russ grading standard that is a PR64 Merc in PCGSs eyes*.


    *Unless some high profile dealer submits it at the $200 level at a show then it's a PR66CAM.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    It may have some cameo on the rev, but I would not call this coin Cam. But since NGC called it that it will bring more than it should.
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    I've got one with a touch of cameo like that one. It took a long time to find it.

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    This one has much more frost. If it were dipped it might actually deserve the cameo designation. With this much toning the services would never give it the designation.

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    Lord,
    that 1/2 sovereign ?
    i aint no expert,but ray charles would call that a cameo
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not many proof coins from the 1936-42 era are found with any cameo at all,
    so you have to celebrate even a hint of cameo on one

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    not the best picture but the coin in hand is almost kinda borderline maybe no not really cameo image

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well according to Russ (my hero) if NGC says it's a CAM, it's a plain coin and is 1 point overgraded. >>



    Now, now, Marty, you know that only applies to your submissions. image

    Carl,

    I'd rather have your 1942 then the one in the auction. It has character. image

    Russ, NCNE
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    jeffnpcbjeffnpcb Posts: 1,943
    PCGS has graded 12 so far to date. I believe the coin looks better in hand than the photo. It also appears to be getting a little surface crud building up. A little too white in the fields.
    16 at NGC so far.
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Mmmm. I like proof mercs. Cameo even better.image
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    Thanks Russ, that '42 of mine is very special.

    The '42 at auction is a PF 65 and is already near $1,000 image I sure would like to see it in hand and compare it to the two proof Mercs I posted pics of.
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    Here's one in the same auction (my coin, full disclosure) that I felt should get the cameo designation but did not. Maybe on a better day? Anyway, it's only PR64 but it does have a beautiful black/white cameo contrast when held just right. I don't expect it to bring big bucks since it's not designated on the holder, but it would be a good starter Merc cameo for someone wanting to "tip-toe" into that area. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up in a cameo holder some day.

    Cameo? Merc in Same Auction
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,032 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lord,
    that 1/2 sovereign ?
    i aint no expert,but ray charles would call that a cameo >>



    100proof1957, that's my point exactly. Why'd that Merc get the CAM designation when the half-sov didn't?

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

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    jomjom Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought I'd bring this up again. I looked at this Mercury dime at the auction viewing yesterday. Not only is this dime NOT a cameo it wasn't even a 65, IMO. Far too many hairlines. I've been told they are somewhat lenient on this these proofs for cameo designation but this is ridiculous. Just my opinion....

    jom
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    boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rob- Your half sov. is definitely a solid cam and few people would argue with it in a ultra cam holder.image
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    dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    Hmmmm..........Not sure why Heritage chose to describe that piece as a full black a white cameo, as it clearly is not IMO. Also not sure why NGC gave that piece with a cameo designation, who knows.

    A full black and white cameo proof Merc. would be a rare bird indeed, I've never seen one in over 25 yrs. actually. That Heritage coin looks to be a very, very slight semi cameo coin at best and is certainly not even close to black and white as Heritage says, unless that pic doesn't do the coin justice which I highly doubt.

    dragon

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