Home U.S. Coin Forum

What is wear...?

...as in a coin becoming "worn down."

What exactly is happening to the coin? Is silver being gradually removed from the coin, so that an extremely worn coin would be appreciably lighter than its MS counterpart?

Or are the features of the coin simply being squished back down, sort of a reversal of the minting process?


Comments

  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    Or both, or something else entirely?
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wear is exactly what it sounds like--a coin is being worn down. So yes, a circulated coin will weigh less than a mint state example.

    Along those lines, it explains a few things:

    --Regular wear goes from the high points to the low points--the highest is what is contacted by something first.

    --Lustre is broken with wear. Put a little wear in the field, the metal flow is smoothed out, and lustre is lost in that spot. The more wear, the less lustre

    Jeremy
    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • I know that the process of wear is very gradual, but seriously, I always wondered where the "metal" went from the wear due to circulation. Since a heavily worn coins weighs slightly less than a MS example, this means some of the metal comes off. But where does the metal go? It's not like you rub a coin and you see the metal just come off.
  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557
    I'm thinking microscopic amounts of silver comes off by means of friction when something rubs on it, like... fingers, clothing, etc. etc
    -George
    42/92
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    Hmmm...when the first three respondents to a question of mine are barely old enough to drive, maybe it's time for me to buckle down and hit the booksimage



  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    I had a few other ideas for a benchmark of age, but this is a family forumimage
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,386 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But where does the metal go? It's not like you rub a coin and you see the metal just come off.
    >>

    Onto your skin, your clothes, etc... we're talking about rubbing off microscopically thin amounts at a time--that's why it takes so long to notice wear... that's a LOT of microscopic layers before you notice it... that said, clad coins wear much more slowly than silver or gold because clad is so much harder.



    << <i>I had a few other ideas for a benchmark of age, but this is a family forumimage >>

    I know the laws of NJ... the answer is you need to be 16 image
    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I know that the process of wear is very gradual, but seriously, I always wondered where the "metal" went from the wear due to circulation. Since a heavily worn coins weighs slightly less than a MS example, this means some of the metal comes off. But where does the metal go? It's not like you rub a coin and you see the metal just come off. >>



    like a file or emery cloth only a LOT less
    theknowitalltroll;
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭
    I once weighed an AG Barber quarter...had only lost about 5% of its weight.

    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well the highpoints don't weigh much!
    theknowitalltroll;
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Hmmm...when the first three respondents to a question of mine are barely old enough to drive, maybe it's time for me to buckle down and hit the books

    image Better start doing some research!!!
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wear is the sloughing off of metal from a coin caused by phsyical abrasion and rubbing.
    It is concentrated on the highest points simply because other areas are protected by
    being under those points which come into direct contact with most of the agents causing
    wear. The way an individual coin wears can vary significantly due to the source of the
    friction or its type. Coins which spend a long time in a casino take on a very different app-
    earance than one which is carried as a pocket piece. Circulation wear will usually wear
    down a coin very evenly since much of this is like polishing which occurs in pockets. Often
    coins will acquire tarnish, scratches, or get signs of other mishaps so sometimes nice at-
    tractive low grade coins can be hard to find. Other coins (like cents) have an extremely
    low probability of surviving long enough to reach low grade before they are lost or destroyed.
    There will tend to be little difference in the rate of wear to circulating issues because it is
    determined mostly by the time one spends in circulation and over the long term there is a
    tendency for all coins of an issue to spend the same lenght of time in circulation unless acted
    on by collectors or hoarders.

    Generally heavily worn coins have lost about 3% of their weight but it's possible to lose
    more and still be identifiable.

    As metal is removed from the surface and the coin becomes thinner problems with strike
    and hubbing will gradually fade. Mishaps also can completely disappear as the evidence
    is ground away.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To see where the metal goes, take a couple of nice clean older clad quarters and rub
    them together between your finger and thumb for a few minutes. Your fingers will get
    progressively blacker.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file