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Coin collecting needs a Tiger Woods... Do you agree?
lava
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Tiger Woods takes the credit for making golf, and golfers, seem cool. Instead of a game for people not athletic enough to do other things, golf became hip. The golfing biz seems to have flourished ever since.
Seems to me coin collecting could use a Tiger Woods, someone to invigorate the hobby with an image of coolness. I suspect this may prompt some slapstick replies, but I do think we would all benefit from having a Tiger Woods make coin collecting, and coin collectors, cool.
Seems to me coin collecting could use a Tiger Woods, someone to invigorate the hobby with an image of coolness. I suspect this may prompt some slapstick replies, but I do think we would all benefit from having a Tiger Woods make coin collecting, and coin collectors, cool.
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We get Camie.
go figure
42/92
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
Yeah, how about JB? After all they made a movie about him.
In the sequel, the coin thing will come out. I hear the studio is still taking bids on which grading service to featured
And we have the living legend LucyBop.
<< <i>How about me? >>
He said image of coolness. A mullet is an automatic disqualification.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>After all they made a movie about him >>
shhhhh
hey Russ
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>No, we don't need that. Too much dependent upon one person. What we need is a way to make the hobby accessible to those who can't afford $100 and up coins. >>
nwcs, I thought the government is already catering to that group via the new coin designs, particularly the state quarters. No one here is a mircale worker. If for instance dmpl morgans were to come on the market for under $100 per, the fact is people like me would bid it right back up to $100 and beyond (more likely VERY beyond), leaving the low budget collectors to the less expensive coins, which seem to be newer coins in any shape, or older coins in very circulated shape.
I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.
Always looking for nice type coins
my local dealer
<< <i>Instead of a game for people not athletic enough to do other things, golf became hip. >>
I understand the context in which you meant this statement lava, but must take exception to its wording. For all the golfers out there in the world, golf has always been "cool". Before Tiger, there was Jack and before/with Jack, there was Arnie and before...etc. As of now, there are many young guns coming up through the Nationwide Tour that can and will give Tiger a run for his money, and someday, they will be on the top. Golf has always "flourished", Tiger just forced the sporting world to take it seriously.
It was, prior to Tiger, unthinkable for most of the pros on tour to worry about physical fitness. Tiger proved that this is a necessary part of the game, not only for scoring but for long-term health benefits. Now, those wishing to improve/compete on tour, are also into fitness.
I am 54, in excellent physical health, work out twice a week, have been playing since 1964, and regularly score under 80. Just came back from a round and shot 79 in a 20-30 mph wind over a 6500 yard course. According to statistics, this regular below 80 scoring puts me in the top 3% of all non-professional players. This length is considered short for todays pros, but at one time, it was considered long. So it is now long for amateurs.
Granted, it isn't football, soccer, hockey, basketball, baseball...but it is just as challenging---maybe more so as it is such an individual sport akin to tennis. No one to cover for you. Putting that little ball where you want it to go 260 yards away, is just as physical and demanding of coordination as making a basket from mid-court. A home run in baseball is a 8 or 9 iron shot for a good golfer to find the green and sometimes it looks no bigger then a pitchers mound at that distance.
In short, most good golfers are athletic enough to do just about any other physical activity you could put us in. I do not play golf because it is cool, I play because it is more of a challenge to me then anything else I have ever found that suffuses, instills and combines coordination, balance, agility, concentration and fitness to maintain and/or best last weeks score.
Done! Thank you for your patience, one and all!
David
I'm don't play the game and didn't watch much before Tiger. He made if fun to watch. The older guys looked bad against him and were . But also there had not been a dominant player since Jack.
But from Hagan to Arnold then to Jack golf always had it's dominant player, or two. I'm not saying we didn't have great ones, but that we didn't have dominant ones. It was several years between Jack and Tiger.
Anyways, don't compare the 15+ year stretch from Jack to Tiger with what has been the norm for many years of great players and great golf.
Oh yes, on the question. No
W.C. Fields
Oh wait, I get it, it's an evil attempt to drive up the market more so you can sell!
Gah!
Oh, and before you golfers get all in a huff because I said golf is boring, note I said "watching". I feel the same way about most baseball games.
Russ, NCNE
"Instead of a game for people oftentimes perceived by the public as not being athletic enough to do other things, golf became hip."
That is what I should have said. I didn't mean to express my personal opinion that golfers are unathletic. But since I see you are sensitive to that point of view, let me trample on it a little, all in good fun of course.
A little OT, but there is only one sport which in my mind truly impresses me. Go get dressed to run down the driveway as fast as you can. When you get there keep going for another 26 miles. Talk about nobody to cover your back. Not jogging now, running, and running fast, as in a race. You talk of guys shooting in the 80s. Far less can run a 7 minute mile. Even fewer can run a 6 minute mile. Try running a 5 minute mile, and see how you feel running just one 5 minute mile. Then keep that pace up for 25 more miles. That is my idea of sport, and by that standard, golf isn't on that chart.
Tim Herron, Craig Stadler, etc., could not compete if golf were a real sport. Which brings me back to my point -- look at what Tiger has done for the image of golf. It is incredible. He is by all accounts a guy who could participate in real sports, and he chooses golf. Now if we had that boost in the coin market, wow. I for one would welcome it.
collections is great cardio-vascular and keeps us in trim for the "sportier"
aspects.
You have described a marathon where athletes with extreme abilities of endurance run at full throttle for 26 miles (and another 385 yards!). This is on a par with the likes of the Tour de France or cross-country skiing where ones physical stamina is pushed to the breaking point---and often past it. You decide to include a marathon into your definition of sports. But the definition of "sport" is "1. An active pastime; recreation. 2. A specific diversion, usually involving physical exercise with a set form and rules; game." So while I agree with you as far as how intense a marathon is for the runners, I personally cannot consider it a sport. And again, while I agree that golf is no where near a marathon (and what it requires of the athlete(s)), I would not include baseball, hockey, basketball, football, tennis, etc. etc. etc. on a par (no pun intended!) with a marathon. I seriously doubt that any of the pro sports individuals could finish one.
<< <i> and by that standard, golf isn't on that chart. >>
You're right, it isn't---neither is any other physical activity. It is alone in its requirements of an individual to participate in, let alone finish! I know it would kill me to attempt one!
Based on the definition of SPORT, curling, bowling, archery, fencing, pool, diving, and many many other "games" fit in. But do you consider them sports? If you do not accept golf as a sport, then you must say no. Hmmm. Could Tim Herron, Craig Stadler, etc. compete in any of the above noted games? Of course! Might not do too well and might even make Americas Funniest Sports Videos, but play? Yup. (You forgot John Daly)!
OT---
If your interested, I would say that IMO, baseball and hockey do not conform to the definition of sport. Both are nothing more then a preamble to a fight by two or more individuals that cannot accept accidents (ball hitting batter, or bad call by an ump) in baseball, or being out-manuevered on the ice and other parts of the game, in hockey. I say put a boxing ring outside the field or ice rink for poor sports to duke it out, but get on with the game!
I'm sorry if I seem to have taken this too far, and I'm not doing it here to try to convince you or anyone else of my POV. This is/was more of a conversation with myself about it, put to words.
I'm done!
If you are talking about a Tiger Woods coin, then blah. However, it would be nice if the mint did a Legends of Hollywood series such as they did for postal stamps...... but would prefer Legends of Music, such as SRV, and other dead musicians. I do have a Willie Nelson silver round, just because I think it's "kewl".
Edited to add: If the Mint utilized a cartoon character such as Shrek or Nemo - pointing them towards collecting coins instead of trash, then that would bring some YN's on board ..... they could run the commercial on Sat. morn between Barbie commercials and those new cards and junk toys that kids collect these dayze. Can you see the list to Santa Claus if they did that? Dear Santa: ....................
Thank goodness you didn't say anything about the other "sports" of ping pong, horse shoes, or croquet. In the average game of horse shoes, a player must walk about 4,000 yards and bend over 267 times.....can you imagine the athletic ability it takes to do that in 30 mph winds. I'm not sure some of today's professional golfers could finish a game of horse shoes.
So thanks again for not picking on horse shoes, ping pong or croquet.
JOC
<< <i>Spy88, I think you correctly saw where I was coing from. I could have stated it better, and for the reocrd will restate how it should have read:
"Instead of a game for people oftentimes perceived by the public as not being athletic enough to do other things, golf became hip."
That is what I should have said. I didn't mean to express my personal opinion that golfers are unathletic. But since I see you are sensitive to that point of view, let me trample on it a little, all in good fun of course.
A little OT, but there is only one sport which in my mind truly impresses me. Go get dressed to run down the driveway as fast as you can. When you get there keep going for another 26 miles. Talk about nobody to cover your back. Not jogging now, running, and running fast, as in a race. You talk of guys shooting in the 80s. Far less can run a 7 minute mile. Even fewer can run a 6 minute mile. Try running a 5 minute mile, and see how you feel running just one 5 minute mile. Then keep that pace up for 25 more miles. That is my idea of sport, and by that standard, golf isn't on that chart.
Tim Herron, Craig Stadler, etc., could not compete if golf were a real sport. Which brings me back to my point -- look at what Tiger has done for the image of golf. It is incredible. He is by all accounts a guy who could participate in real sports, and he chooses golf. Now if we had that boost in the coin market, wow. I for one would welcome it. >>
My dad ran and COMPLETED the Honolulu marathon 2 years ago four months after his 65th birthday, he was competing on behalf of the Arthritis Foundation (he raised over $4200). As they were nearing the finish line a man and his wife were standing out in front of their house offering drinks (BEER) to people and my dad grabbed two on the way by. After the race some people were talking about it and thought it was just a joke but were shocked to hear that indeed it was really beer they were giving away and not just pop or water (they passed it assuming it was just a joke).
1. Someone with God-Given talent grows up in a rags to riches sort of way.
2. A david and goliath type situation where ultra-talented newbie faces off with the best and pummels him.
3. A way that the onlookers can get involved, i.e. several valuable modern coins that might be in your change.
4. The Most Important thing: A Pretty Face that the American People can Connect to Coin Collecting!