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Help Me To Understand This "Toning" Thing

VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
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Card collectors like their cards to look like new. Why do you coin guys like discoloration so much?

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    TheLiberatorTheLiberator Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭
    I don't! Actually, the "toning craze" is relatively new from what I understand. I almost wish it wasn't so popular because now a lot of coins are being "cooked" to look like they have natural, pretty toning. This damages the coin severely. Also, you will find MANY people who like their coins to look like they just came out of the mint. Some toning is really pretty but much of it looks like poo poo to me. Also, if a coin has natural toning it is a sign it hasn't been dipped or otherwise cleaned. Cleaning can greatly reduce the value of coins if done improperly.
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    Some of it looks good, but it's a fad. People often buy coins with any kind of toning, attractive or not.
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    LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Because Crazy colors are boss!

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    ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    I'm with Lucy!!!...image
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    jeffnpcbjeffnpcb Posts: 1,943 ✭
    Eye appeal! Depends on the metalurgy of the planchet. Some work out well with time and elements, some don't. Natural[oxidation with time and environment] and AT [enhanced by chemicals, heat or both]. At times it is hard to tell with moderns, but old coinage looks with toning looks really nice, yet the underlying fact deals with the base formulation of the planchet and storage. Oxidation, pure and simple, adds to the toning and unfortunately, has made this a market that continues to skyrocket a monetary value on an overpopulated coin that would sell for 10 times or better it's true market value. I call it drain bamage!
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    cachemancacheman Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Because Crazy colors are boss! >>



    True...but you are still dealing with designs that are as dynamic as our current Administration...
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Toning is no fad. Rather it's the bright white craze created in the 1980's for moderns, then to the 1990's for all other series that has skewed things. During the 70's and earlier, collectors and dealers alike tended to look for coin that were not cleaned or dipped. Original coins (i.e. toned coins) were in. Better to be somewhat overtoned than undertoned. I can tell you with certainty that among my sphere of collectors back then, if it was dipped, it carried a stigma. About the only thing immune to that were Morgans, and the 20th century dated sets (Walkers, Standings, Mercs, Washies, etc.). Earlier stuff was considered suspect and less valuable imo if it were too white.

    The coin collecting world of today is similar to the Planet of the Apes. Things are upside down. A toned coin, unless pretty, is considered marginal, while a washed out, double dipped piece of swill is marketable.


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    sTONERsTONER Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭
    TONING IS MY LIFEimageimageimage
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    nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Because sometimes, it just looks good and makes the coin look better. Since trading cards are paper based, every discoloration makes it look worse. Just doesn't work that way with metals as a rule. Sometimes toned coins are fugly, sometimes beautiful.
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Why do you coin guys like discoloration so much? >>



    I dunno.
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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Rarely have I been in complete, 100% agreement with something Roadrunner has posted. Sometimes agree, and sometimes not, but certainly 100% here.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originalisbest, I'll take that as a compliment. Half the time I don't even agree with myself! image

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    sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    I don't understand the toning thing either. I do like coins with what one might call a patina but the rainbow stuff is odd.
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    jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    toning is not and will not be a fad for me.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    You guys do realize that Vargha is a plant sent over here by those weirdos over in the open forum? image

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    sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Russ, there are no weirdos on the Open Forum.
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    FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭
    I resemble that remark!
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ, there are no weirdos on the Open Forum. >>



    Only because you and Frank are over here right now. image

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    some of you guys are lost, this is the coin forum.

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    FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭
    I count the last 5 posters in that remark Keets image
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yeah, but you need to understand that the rep's are in temporary muzzle-mode since the prisoner thing exploded. they've even been bitten by some of their own and will need some time to re-group. i guess if they can't attack Kerry they'll show us over here how much they have the toned coin market figured out.

    i'm gonna stick around and get edjumecated!!

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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Hey there keets, I tend to post here on the CF if not on the OF. Save your barbs for Vargha!

    Anyhoo, yes roadrunner, that was certainly meant as a compliment - I think your succinct statement re: the coin market these days spoke volumes.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey oib

    so what makes you think my post was directed at you, maybe felons guilt??!!image like the old saying goes, sometimes if you throw something out there it'll stick!! but, i digress.

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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Guh? image

    I assumed that you were lumping me in with those nasty "rep's" with your response to the pug and his reference to the last 5 posters. If I'm mistaken, sorry - it's not the first or last time.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    are you a nasty rep?? image

    i only recently started reading more and posting at the open forum, the last month especially, due to a slackening of interesting topics over here. i'm still not up to snuff on who's where on what.

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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Yah, I guess if I'm honest with myself - I'm one of "those". Hopefully not the nasty kind tho. image
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    FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭
    Well - getting back to the toning thing before the Open Forum Sewer Rats took over the thread (image)

    Here is a picture of 8 coins unique onto themselves, and one with over 200 million clones - guess which one is which

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