What is your current pet peeve?

OnlyBuffalos · February 4, 2004 6:28PM

Mine is the use of the word "original" which I believe should mean a coin which has never been cleaned and shows no trace of ever having been cleaned. Just because a coin has been slabbed does not automatically entitle the coin to be designated as original. Just because a coin has great eye appeal does not automatically entitle the coin to be called original. Any coin that is hairlined cannot be called original with rare exception.

Right now collectors are drawn to coins that are advertised as original and sellers are abusing that word big time.

It is frustrating to purchase a coin advertised as original and receive one that obviously is not. It is now mandatory to call or write the seller and ask what he/she means by original.

Gandyjai · February 4, 2004 6:46PM

My pet peave is coin doctors sellng articially toned coins to newbies.

Gandyjai

tonyhar · February 4, 2004 6:51PM

Ebay sellers who will not sell outside there own country.

cladking · February 4, 2004 6:52PM

I wouldn't mention it except I was just thinking about it as I went
through the threads of the last three weeks, but my pet peeve on
the forum is misspelled words in titles. They are almost impossible
to find later unless you remember.

They don't disturb me in the body so long as I can figure out what
word was meant.

hoardmonster · February 4, 2004 7:07PM

"unsearched"

hamiltonjh · February 4, 2004 7:07PM

cleaned coins/fake toning.

Outhaul · February 4, 2004 9:07PM

My pet peeves:

NEWPS - I hate the term. I can't even get past the term to look at the offering.
Estate - Seems it takes forever for some sellers to "liquidate" an estate.
PQ - What hype..what dealer DOESN'T tell you it's PQ for the grade...sheesh
Original - As in "Original Roll" of Morgan silver dollars, and they're all in a plastic tube. Am I supposed to believe that these were taken out of a roll and someone didn't just put together a solid date roll? BTW...I'm not aware that they ever "rolled" Morgans.

These are just a few...

Cheers,

Bob

dorkkarl · February 4, 2004 10:02PM

<< What is your current pet peave? >>

misspelling "peave"!!!

K S

nwcs · February 4, 2004 10:09PM

I'd have to say threads about coins I cannot afford.

BAJJERFAN · February 4, 2004 10:42PM

peeples hoo caint spell

JrGMan2004 · February 4, 2004 10:47PM

Ignorance... Idiocy... Prejudice...

Aethelred · February 4, 2004 10:51PM

The width of Lordmarcovan's sig line pictures!

Peaceman · February 4, 2004 10:56PM

People who take the time out on this board to point out misspelling.... who cares... if your that anal about SPELLING.... on a open forum.... GOD I'd hate to live with you......

(edited to correct all of my misspelling, punctuation and run-on sentances)

RYK · February 4, 2004 11:08PM

Pompous people who use this forum to lecture on a variety of non-coin related issues. If I wanted a patronizing personal finance lesson, as a recurrung example here, I would go to a personal finance message board.

keets · February 4, 2004 11:09PM

Any coin that is hairlined cannot be called original with rare exception.

............and you obviously haven't looked at as many original proof sets as i have!!

one thing that bugs me is the use of the term Mint State which describes a coin as it left the mint. a wonderfully toned coin may be beautiful with pristine surfaces, but it surely isn't mint state.

al h.

razorface1027 · February 4, 2004 11:14PM

"Banging heads" with my Mrs.

Merc · February 4, 2004 11:16PM

Collectors who try to sell their coins at full retail or more.

Outhaul · February 4, 2004 11:20PM

<< Collectors who try to sell their coins at full retail or more. >>

Are you saying that only DEALERS should be allowed to do this?

Cheers,

Bob

jbsteven · February 4, 2004 11:23PM

<< Collectors who try to sell their coins at full retail or more >>

this does make sense. If a collector consigns to a auction aren't they trying to get full retail? If they sell on Ebay they are at least trying to get retail. Should collectors sell to other collectors and dealers at wholesale levels? just curious.

morganbarber · February 4, 2004 11:24PM

I can't stand it when a dealer lists a bunch of leftover stuff as a "collection" on Ebay. Even an uninformed and poor collector puts together the best things he can find. I would rather buy a true "collection" which an owner took pride in, than some dealer's leftovers and culls listed as a collection.

CarlWohlforth · February 4, 2004 11:33PM

Misrepresenting a coin. Selling modern NTC, ICG, PCI PR 70 DCAM as if it were worth the same as a PCGS PR 70. Selling an Artificially Toned coin as natural. Selling overgraded raw coins.

dorkkarl · February 4, 2004 11:40PM

<< What is your current pet peave? >>

when someone can't tell a post was in jest!!!

K S

GottaGetCoins · February 4, 2004 11:41PM

I have a pet Shih Tzu and a pet Tortoise, no pet Peeve's

Outhaul · February 4, 2004 11:46PM

<< If a collector consigns to a auction aren't they trying to get full retail? If they sell on Ebay they are at least trying to get retail. >>

Auction does not necessarily mean you will get full retail, as evidenced in the twenty-odd lots I consigned to Heritage that sold without even reaching gray sheet bid. Add on to that the coins I, and many others have sold on eBay for less than bid.

When you sell something, anything, there is nothing wrong for trying to get the most that you can. Dealers have no problem asking WAY MORE than retail for their coins, so what difference does it make if I do? The price you realize is what a willing buyer is going to pay a willing seller. Somretimes it's retail or more, sometimes it's less.

Cheers,

Bob

jeffnpcb · February 4, 2004 11:54PM

MADMARTY and all his wonderful finds!!!!
RUSS with all those stinkin' Kennedys'!

291fifth · February 4, 2004 11:55PM

Premium quality BU

291fifth · February 5, 2004 12:00AM

<< Ebay sellers who will not sell outside there own country. >>

It really is sad that so many sellers, myself included, will not sell outside the US. Unfortunately, the problems with foreign exchange, lack of insurance, and, above all, out-of control scammers has killed my interest in doing so.

mercurynut · February 5, 2004 12:23AM

I "made" a coin.....no you had one graded and slabbed at that grade!

oldguy · February 5, 2004 12:23AM

mercurynut · February 5, 2004 12:29AM

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I will up you one

and one

ealandg · February 5, 2004 12:45AM

People trying to pass off damaged and/or cleaned coins as undamaged and/or uncleaned. It is particularly ridiculous when the coin is VF or lower and is blindingly shiny. Give me a break! Just admit it has been cleaned! I might still want it, but don't BS me...

DennisH · February 5, 2004 12:55AM

People on the BST board here, and everyone on eBay, who proclaims "No Reserve" on their coins -- but their minimum opening bid is so far above Ask that it's a joke.

Ahhh... it does feel better to vent!

Fairlaneman · February 5, 2004 1:12AM

<< << What is your current pet peave? >>

when someone can't tell a post was in jest!!!

K S >>

No pet peave that relates to here or coins but I do agree with the above statement.

Ken

PS: maybe the lack of pictured 19th century coins would be a minor peave.

Cladiator · February 5, 2004 1:16AM

My 1 pet peeve = COIN VAULT!!!

Bayside · February 5, 2004 1:21AM

A coin that PCGS won't upgrade even when I KNOW it is PQ

spadesjedi · February 5, 2004 1:21AM

People thinkin all these cat puke tarnished junk coins are beautiful

Merc · February 5, 2004 1:27AM

Hi Outlaw and others.

I wrote on the first page "Collectors who try to sell at full retail or more". I guess I need to clairify that. I am a collector too. I guess I sounded like a delaer saying that. What I don't like is when I try to buy from another collector and he quotes me this high price way over retail like he is the only one who has this coin. This happened to me recently. I was looking at a coin that list in Coin World trends retail at $2200. I did an an auction search to see they were selling from 1500 to 1750. The other collector wanted $2500!

Tonekiller · February 5, 2004 1:33AM

OT Post on the US coin board.

TBT

Outhaul · February 5, 2004 1:37AM

Hey Merc,

You are the one with the money, if you don't like the price, then do what I do...WALK. Nothing gets a seller's attention more than the south end view of a northbound wallet

Coins are like anything else (unless you're talking true rarities)...if you don't like the price, pass it by; another will be along.

Cheers,

Bob

puff · February 5, 2004 1:46AM

>>> What is your current pet peeve?<<<

Just about everything mentioned in all the previous post, and probably the ones that follow!

stman · February 5, 2004 1:51AM

<< NEWPS - I hate the term. I can't even get past the term to look at the offering >>

Makes me cringe. Glad to see I'm not the only one on this one.

Russ · February 5, 2004 2:25AM

<< This happened to me recently. I was looking at a coin that list in Coin World trends retail at $2200. I did an an auction search to see they were selling from 1500 to 1750. The other collector wanted $2500! >>

Just because "trends" and realized auction prices show a certain price range does not automatically make a particular coin only worth a certain amount. Much of what is sold, and therefore determining the pricing references, is low-end or barely made it for the grade. The collector asking $2500 for the coin may very well have been offering you a premium example worth every penny of the asking price.

"Trends", "sheets", etc. are flat useless when it comes to pricing the better quality material. Example:

I sold off my Walker Short Set recently. The coins were all graded MS64. I sold them for 50% over Greysheet - to a dealer. Why did they bring that much? Because they were likely the best looking group for the grade the dealer had seen. They were well worth the premium.

Russ, NCNE

Prometheus183 · February 5, 2004 3:37AM

Pet peaves,...

Terms like "Unsearched", "Scarce", "GEM BU", "PQ", etc., to prey on people who really don't know better.

People who deliberately wait to post feedback until I've posted mine after receiving items I've purchased, as a fallback for possible retaliation, just in case they don't like to hear (or read) the truth. I see it all the time.

Listings that include replicas. eBay should have a catagory strictly for listing junk.

Just a small sample.

Keep smiling!
Craig

MatthewBabcock · February 5, 2004 3:48AM

I like 3-cent SILVER Trimes... I hate when eBayers try to claim that their 3-cent NICKELS are either silver or Trimes.

I hate fuzy photos...

I hate all-cap descriptions...

I hate people who don't agree with me all the time... ( Sorry, I couldn't resist that one...

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Tsimmerdown · February 5, 2004 4:10AM

2 current ones:

People who refuse to look beyond their own nose, and think their opinion is the only one that has merit.

Ebay sellers who use LQQK, L@@K or L00K in their auction titles.

Russ · February 5, 2004 4:19AM

<< Ebay sellers who use LQQK, L@@K or L00K in their auction titles. >>

You mean like this?

Russ, NCNE

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