<< <i>No way. I compared it to my NGC MS62 3-legged. Not even close. No luster and a big blob of something on the indian' s neck. That is pure fantasy. >>
Sorry, but that's wrong. The 1926-S was made from basically the worst known dies in the buffalo series- they were incredibly worn down, and the coins are not "flashy" like your everyday MS.
I would trust PCGS, NGC, or ANACS to get this right on the MS scale... this is where learning to grade professionally comes into play--they can see what is wear vs. a simply horrendous strike.
As with nearly an 1926-S that you see, this is the simply horrendous strike.
<< <i>No way. I compared it to my NGC MS62 3-legged. Not even close. No luster and a big blob of something on the indian' s neck. That is pure fantasy. >>
Sorry, but that's wrong. The 1926-S was made from basically the worst known dies in the buffalo series- they were incredibly worn down, and the coins are not "flashy" like your everyday MS.
I would trust PCGS, NGC, or ANACS to get this right on the MS scale... this is where learning to grade professionally comes into play--they can see what is wear vs. a simply horrendous strike.
As with nearly an 1926-S that you see, this is the simply horrendous strike.
Jeremy >>
This again raises the issue of whether strike should be a factor when grading. To me, strike has always been very important. An issue like this, which is poorly struck from worn dies, should have a disclaimer on the slab label. This is one of PCGS's weaknesses that they have failed to address.
i agree w/ 291fifth. strike MUST be taken into account as part of a grade. a 1926-s buffalo fresh off the press, but struck w/ half the detail missing, is a NET XF, not "ms-62". the fact is, there ARE legitimate ms-62's of this date in existence that look way better than that piece of crap.
<< <i>this is where learning to grade professionally comes into play--they can see what is wear vs. a simply horrendous strike. >>
i seriously hope you aren't learning to grade buff's from this example. again, strike quality IS considered as part of the grade, as clearly spelled out in the ANA guidelines. that fact that the "professionals" have ignored this defintely doesn't make them right.
I would put it into a drink machine to finish it off.
Clearly the coin is an Unc, but what a piece of worthless horrificly struck crap IMO, Not even worth more than Fine money to me. Who cares wether its technically unc or not, lookin like this. People who collects buffalo's want to have detail that commensurates with the typical grades. Yes the 26-d is one of the worst struck, but thier are lot better strikes availble than this thing.
like I said above, and good place to use it (5 cent worth)
<< <i>i seriously hope you aren't learning to grade buff's from this example. again, strike quality IS considered as part of the grade, as clearly spelled out in the ANA guidelines. that fact that the "professionals" have ignored this defintely doesn't make them right. >>
No, I'm not.
Now, suppose that spot wasn't there when the coin was slabbed, or was very tiny has grown since. The coin is relatively clean, with only a few hits, and with the strike accounted for, it may very well have been netted to MS62. Remember, an MS coin has not seen circulation. Even if the coin appears more worn than another date's circulated example, if the coin shows now wear, then it still deserves the MS designation.
It sort of looks like the 26-D I received from Ken Pines' "Coast to Coast" many years ago, when I was just plugging holes in my Dansco album. I always knew the 26-D was a soft strike, but never knew that there were really nice ones out there until I got a PC.
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There you have it - if that thing is MS, it's another sure sign I would fail miserably in the PCGS grading challenge.
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s neck. That is pure fantasy.
<< <i>No way. I compared it to my NGC MS62 3-legged. Not even close. No luster and a big blob of something on the indian'
s neck. That is pure fantasy. >>
Sorry, but that's wrong. The 1926-S was made from basically the worst known dies in the buffalo series- they were incredibly worn down, and the coins are not "flashy" like your everyday MS.
I would trust PCGS, NGC, or ANACS to get this right on the MS scale... this is where learning to grade professionally comes into play--they can see what is wear vs. a simply horrendous strike.
As with nearly an 1926-S that you see, this is the simply horrendous strike.
Jeremy
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<< <i>No way. I compared it to my NGC MS62 3-legged. Not even close. No luster and a big blob of something on the indian'
s neck. That is pure fantasy. >>
Sorry, but that's wrong. The 1926-S was made from basically the worst known dies in the buffalo series- they were incredibly worn down, and the coins are not "flashy" like your everyday MS.
I would trust PCGS, NGC, or ANACS to get this right on the MS scale... this is where learning to grade professionally comes into play--they can see what is wear vs. a simply horrendous strike.
As with nearly an 1926-S that you see, this is the simply horrendous strike.
Jeremy >>
This again raises the issue of whether strike should be a factor when grading. To me, strike has always been very important. An issue like this, which is poorly struck from worn dies, should have a disclaimer on the slab label. This is one of PCGS's weaknesses that they have failed to address.
<< <i>this is where learning to grade professionally comes into play--they can see what is wear vs. a simply horrendous strike. >>
i seriously hope you aren't learning to grade buff's from this example. again, strike quality IS considered as part of the grade, as clearly spelled out in the ANA guidelines. that fact that the "professionals" have ignored this defintely doesn't make them right.
K S
Clearly the coin is an Unc, but what a piece of worthless horrificly struck crap IMO, Not even worth more than Fine money to me. Who cares wether its technically unc or not, lookin like this. People who collects buffalo's want to have detail that commensurates with the typical grades. Yes the 26-d is one of the worst struck, but thier are lot better strikes availble than this thing.
like I said above, and good place to use it (5 cent worth)
<< <i>i seriously hope you aren't learning to grade buff's from this example. again, strike quality IS considered as part of the grade, as clearly spelled out in the ANA guidelines. that fact that the "professionals" have ignored this defintely doesn't make them right. >>
No, I'm not.
Now, suppose that spot wasn't there when the coin was slabbed, or was very tiny has grown since. The coin is relatively clean, with only a few hits, and with the strike accounted for, it may very well have been netted to MS62. Remember, an MS coin has not seen circulation. Even if the coin appears more worn than another date's circulated example, if the coin shows now wear, then it still deserves the MS designation.
Jeremy
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What does the finest known 26-D look like? Still ugly I bet. Tho the MS66 in the Heritage ANA this year doesn't seem too bad.
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