How good would a Lincoln have to be in order to be worth more than this coin?

ColonialCoinUnion · December 21, 2003 1:43AM

Realized $63,250 at Stack's in September.

JRocco · December 21, 2003 1:48AM

Can you give me a little history on this coin.

XpipedreamR · December 21, 2003 1:51AM

I think I'd take this one over any Lincoln ( and I'm a Lincoln fan!).

jacktheknife · December 21, 2003 1:59AM

I don't know anything about that coin, but I get the sense from your title that this coin is so rare that one might call it a "numismatic freak". If that's the case, I have pondered that question many times. I think of a 26-S that will show up some day with complete strike and blazing red, like a 66 or 67RD. A total freak. Stewart's 1919 in 69RD is close to being a freak, but there are about 15 others that a very close by so it isn't really all that freaky. In the Lincoln series there just aren't likely to be any really off the board coins. They just aren't extremely rare, just extremely popular.

Jack

XpipedreamR · December 21, 2003 2:04AM

This is a New Jersey colonial issue.

MrEureka · December 21, 2003 2:17AM

How good would a Lincoln have to be in order to be worth more than this coin?

How good would an antique milk bottle need to be to be worth more than that Jersey cent?

CCU - Face it. There will always be more collectors of Lincoln cents than of colonials. Prices will always reflect that imbalance. Be grateful that you are getting more for your money than STEWARTBLAY and his disciples! And be jealous of the antique milk bottle collectors that don't have to spend a lot of money to build great collections.

Gemini · December 21, 2003 3:40AM

That is a very nice Jersey...the ones I have look like they were dragged to and fro on the end of that coulter.

291fifth · December 21, 2003 4:16AM

Better than ANY Lincoln by a wide margin.

abuell · December 21, 2003 4:22AM

<< <i>Can you give me a little history on this coin. >>

1787 New Jersey M. 53-j, Gem Unc.

ex: Stack's/ Ford sale 10/03:176 to a prominent Long Island collector bidding via an agent. The lot opened at $17k and hammered for $55k.
earlier ex: John J. Ford collection
earlier ex: F.C.C. Boyd collection
earlier ex: Hillyer Ryder collection
earlier ex: H.P. Smith collection (S.H.&H. Chapman, June 29, 1906: lot 149)
earlier ex: Lorin G. Parmalee collection (New York Coin & Stamp Co., June 25, 1890 sale: lot 425
earlier ex: Charles Ira Bushnell collection (S.H.&H. Chapman, June 20, 1882 sale: lot 960

Now consider the fact that this coin sold for roughly the same amount as a 1963 Lincoln cent in MS 70. Think about it - long and hard.

Trivia question of the day: What does this coin have to do with Boston baked beans?

Russ · December 21, 2003 6:20AM

<< <i>Now consider the fact that this coin sold for roughly the same amount as a 1963 Lincoln cent in MS 70. >>

There are no 1963 Lincoln cents graded MS70. Matter of fact, there are no Lincoln cents of any year graded MS70.

Russ, NCNE

Mark · December 21, 2003 6:26AM

The Boston baked bean connection is the point that Lorin G. Parmalee made his fortune selling them.

That said, this is a truly LOVELY coin--the fact it still has some mint red is astounding and beautiful. But why is it necessary to drag into the picture any snide comments about Lincoln cents. I love Stewart's MS69 cent as well as this coin--both are lovely and both stand on their own merits. So when posting either, why run down the coins that other people choose to collect?

Mark

dpoole · December 21, 2003 6:30AM

Be grateful that you are getting more for your money than STEWARTBLAY and his disciples!

STEWARTBLAY is God, and Gerry is his prophet!

(or is it the other way round...)

mdwoods · December 21, 2003 6:49AM

I'd love to have that coin and a 1926 S MS65RD Lincoln.

merz2 · December 21, 2003 7:11AM

dpoole
That's not playing nice.

jacktheknife · December 21, 2003 7:34AM

David,
I think it is the other way around

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Jack

Shamika · December 21, 2003 11:58AM

"How good would a Lincoln have to be in order to be worth more than this coin?"

I'd say "Pretty damn good"!

Shamika · December 21, 2003 12:00PM

"Now consider the fact that this coin sold for roughly the same amount as a 1963 Lincoln cent in MS 70. Think about it - long and hard."

I think I'm gonna be sick!

Nic · December 21, 2003 12:07PM

What a killer coin CCU. Did you mean SET of Lincolns?

. K

STEWARTBLAYNUMIS · December 21, 2003 12:09PM

CCU - A 1943 D Lincoln cent brought over $200,000 in auction.It would not grade higher than this Jersey.And there was NO red on the 43 d cent.Which would you rather have for your collection?

Stewart

ColonialCoinUnion · December 21, 2003 12:56PM

I can understand a finest known 1943-D copper, or, for example, a gem 22 plain bringing big, big money.

I'd take the NJ copper myself, though today's market obviously demonstrates that I'm in the minority on this one.

STEWARTBLAYNUMIS · December 21, 2003 1:58PM

ccu - i WAS AT THE sTACK'S AUCTION.i AS A LINCOLN CENT COLLECTOR WAS IN THE MINORITY THAT NIGHT.

PS its impossible to outbid the DON.Been There,Done That I'm just thankful he doesn't collect Lincoln cents.

stewart

abuell · December 21, 2003 2:31PM

<< <i>ccu - i WAS AT THE sTACK'S AUCTION.i AS A LINCOLN CENT COLLECTOR WAS IN THE MINORITY THAT NIGHT.

PS its impossible to outbid the DON.Been There,Done That I'm just thankful he doesn't collect Lincoln cents.

stewart >>

Don HAS been outbid (OK, on those rare occasions he has done it to himself) and it is hilarious to watch him when it does happen. Anton did it once and he stormed out of the room. It's a rather long story and funny as all get out.

JasonRox · December 21, 2003 2:47PM

Did everyone forget about the Canadian 1911 Silver Dollar(2 known)? Hmm... Somewhat bought it for $750,000US, this summer. What about the Canadian 1936 Cent "Dot" Variety(5 known)? That sold for well over $200,000US.

Coppernicus · December 21, 2003 4:04PM

YAWN! - If Stewart or anybody else wants to pay up for a Lincoln, so what? Some us us collect and build sets for pure enjoyment and couldn't care less about "investing" or "potential returns." I do my investing in financial markets - I collect Lincoln Wheats. And guess what? I'VE OVERPAID for some! YAWN!

Mike

How good would a Lincoln have to be in order to be worth more than this coin?

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