New versions of the 3$Gold, 20 cent and 3cent piece going to be the next modern commems proposed?

fivecents · December 3, 2003 5:55PM

David Ganz is predicting congress could ask the mint to strike new versions of the $3 gold, 20 cent and 3 cent piece. David Ganz is the most wired "coin guy" in Washington D.C. and was a member of the Citizens Coin advisory Committee.
If the mint did strike these versions of modern commemoratives they would join the ranks of the buffalo dollar as classic designs on modern commemoratives. This would be a great bridge between the classic and modern collectors.imo

Baley · December 3, 2003 7:16PM

yeah, great idea... then newer collectors wouldn't have to search and search for a decent old rare piece, they could just buy a new one minted in 2004 or 2005 that grades PR70DCAM!

well, some people might still collect the old ones in grades like Fine and Extra Fine...

Cam40 · December 3, 2003 7:27PM

hes sounds `wired` alright.

a ridiculous idea if you ask me.

who wants a 2004 proof 20c piece. Or 3c piece.
would only be a failed attempt by the gov to extract some more money from collectors.

sorry but i hate the idea of making commems of these long-past and still unpopular denoms.

maybe the $3 gold would be cool , but thats it from that group.

JMO

fivecents · December 3, 2003 8:05PM

Baley...These would be NEW VERSIONS not the exact same coin design and could bring renewed interest in the original series.

<< who wants a 2004 proof 20c piece. Or 3c piece. >>

Cam40....I don't know maybe the same collectors who bought the 500,000 buffalo dollars.

keets · December 3, 2003 9:06PM

.............what a perfectly LAZY idea that is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i rather like the new proposal of infusing the design program with fresh, untapped talent. i'm a proponent of the way the Federal Duck Stamp is selected and have ranted about the need for just such a similar effort with regard to coin design. this looks like an effort to do that.

regarding the use of old designs, why not try some of the rejected patterns. Gasparro had a 1970's dollar pattern that was absolutely beautiful. a classic rendition of Liberty which was, of course, soundly rejected.

al h.

dorkkarl · December 3, 2003 9:12PM

UBER-KOOL IDEA.

i hope it happens!!!

K S

Keyrock · December 3, 2003 9:13PM

As a commem I think it's yesterday's news. We have thousands of artist in this country, lets put them to work. I would rather see a 3 or 5 dollar coin that circulates. I like Keets comment about the pattern coins lets revisit them first.....

nwcs · December 3, 2003 9:30PM

Actually, I kind of like the idea.

Trime · December 3, 2003 10:18PM

I think it would be a very big success and accomplish the secondary purpose of awareness and interest in the original series.

mercurynut · December 3, 2003 10:51PM

It would be nice if they did but I doubt it would happen unless they make proof versions just to satisfy collectors. Can you imagine the vending industry going crazy over a 3 cent piece lmao.

XpipedreamR · December 3, 2003 10:59PM

If they did this, I'm sure they would be flat and lifeless like all the rest of the coins they manufacture.

LanLord · December 3, 2003 11:09PM

I would buy multiples. I really like the idea, but then I really like the moden commems.

zenny · December 3, 2003 11:44PM

how's about a full set of unusual denominations as a commem set:

1/2 cent, 2 cent, 3 cent nickel, 3 cent silver, half disme, twenty cent, $3 and $4 gold?

space it over two years using 1/2 cent, 3 cent nickel, twenty cent and $3 the first year, 2 cent, 3 cent silver, half dime and $4 stella the second.

i'd subscribe.

z

flaminio · December 4, 2003 12:03AM

I like the idea of using the denominations of 3c, 20c, and $3 -- as long as the size and compositions remain true to their historical counterparts. However, I would be completely opposed to using the old 19th Century designs. Let the past stay in the past. Those denominations, coupled with the mints apparent newfound quest for artistry, could make some fun coins.

How 'bout this for an idea? It's probably too late, but wouldn't it be neat if, for next year's Lewis & Clark commemorative dollar, the mint hauled some minting equipment down to New Orleans and minted them there? How cool would a 2004-O dollar be?

Just because the mint does something just for collectors doesn't necessarily make it bad. (And even if it does, you can always collect pocket change.)

Draco · December 4, 2003 2:25AM

I also like the idea, but only if their sizes remain true to their historical counterparts. I'd most likely buy them all. Someone mentioned an odd denomination set. . .I like that idea even better.

edsondl · December 4, 2003 2:34AM

I like the "unusual denominations as a commem set" idea proposed by Zenny. Very original idea, I think.

LanLord · December 4, 2003 2:36AM

<< I like the "unusual denominations as a commem set" idea proposed by Zenny. Very original idea, I think. >>

Count me on the positive side for that one too.

fivecents · December 4, 2003 7:50AM

<< . Can you imagine the vending industry going crazy over a 3 cent piece lmao. >>

mercurynut... these would be noncirculating commemoratvies. The mint would make proof and unc versions.

<< I think it would be a very big success and accomplish the secondary purpose of awareness and interest in the original series.
>>

Trime....I couldn't agree more.

I remember how most collectors laughed at the statehood quarter program idea in 1997-1998. Like it or not that program was a huge shot in the arm (understatement) to the entire coin industry. This commemorative program could have close the same positive affect on the coin business as the statehood quarter program did. What the coin hobby/business needs are new collectors entering the market or even better a new generation of collectors entering the market and these programs are doing just that. This commem program will introduce newbie collectors to the classic and odd denomanation coins.

lordmarcovan · December 4, 2003 8:55AM

I generally dislike the recycling of old designs, especially with the Buffalo dollar, which looked too much like one of those silver rounds that had been around at least a decade before it.

<< regarding the use of old designs, why not try some of the rejected patterns. Gasparro had a 1970's dollar pattern that was absolutely beautiful. a classic rendition of Liberty which was, of course, soundly rejected >>

I'm with Al on that one. I make an exception in the case of patterns. Use of some of the rejected designs (not just Gasparro's modern "flowing hair" Liberty, but some of the classic older ones as well) would be interesting.

dcarr · December 4, 2003 9:17AM

That is an interesting idea.

Let me tell you about my proposal. I've sent it to my Senator and to the US Mint but I have had no response. Perhaps someone on this board could direct David Gantz (or anyone else) here to see these ideas.

Anyway, my proposal is this.

2006 is the 100th anniversary of the Denver Mint's first coin production. There has been some talk of a commemorative silver dollar. That REALLY misses a major opportunity. What should be issued, is a 6-coin silver/gold set. These coins, except for the date, should be IDENTICAL to the six coins Denver issued in 1906 !
Imagine 2006-D sets of Barber silver & Liberty gold coins in unc and proof !

Proceeds from such a commemorative program (and I have no doubt that the proceeds would be significant) should go towards establishing a satellite coin/medal design studio at the Denver Mint.

PS: The summer of 2006 is when the Colorado state quarter comes out, and it is also when the big ANA convention comes to Denver (it was actually my suggestion that Denver swap dates with New York so that Denver could host it in 2006).

fivecents · December 4, 2003 9:24AM

dcarr...You can email David Ganz at DaivdLGanz@aol.com.

dcarr · December 4, 2003 9:27AM

<< dcarr...You can email David Ganz at DaivdLGanz@aol.com.

>>

Thanks, I'll do it right now !

CalGold · December 4, 2003 9:33AM

Mr. Carr,

Rather than a set of 2006-D Barber and Liberty coins, how about a set of fresh designs for all of our regular coins plus the gold and silver bullion coins which are rehashed designs.

CG

dcarr · December 4, 2003 9:46AM

<< Mr. Carr,

Rather than a set of 2006-D Barber and Liberty coins, how about a set of fresh designs for all of our regular coins plus the gold and silver bullion coins which are rehashed designs.

CG >>

I'm definitely in favor of new designs for ALL our coins - circulating, bullion, and commemorative.
However in this instance, due to the 100th anniversary of the Denver Mint, 2006-D Barbers & Liberties
just seem appropriate somehow.

dcarr · December 4, 2003 9:48AM

PS:
Of all the current US coins, I do like the Platinum Eagle obverse the best (UNC version) -
so I wouldn't mind keeping that one

New versions of the 3$Gold, 20 cent and 3cent piece going to be the next modern commems proposed?

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