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Coin of the day... November 25, 2003.... 1912-S Liberty Nickel

coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
My only input is that a well struck specimen is a great find....

Let the information flow!!

John

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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Only 238,000 were struck, compared to more than 8 million for the 1912-D and more than 26 million for the 1912-P

    According to Walter Breen, a number of the mint state survivors are from the H.E. McIntosh hoard of 60 pieces, discovered in about 1953.

    The PCGS Population Report shows a total of 483 pieces, as follows:

    57 VG-VF
    5 XF40
    3 XF45
    1 AU50
    1 AU53
    5 AU55
    10 AU58
    4 MS60
    3 MS61
    31 MS62
    119 MS63
    187 MS64
    50 MS65
    7 MS66
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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They were all struck in the last week of the year, starting on December 26, 1912.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
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    Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    Smart coin.

    Even culls are pretty valuable.

    Thanks for the pop numbers on this coin too Mr. Feld.

    Interesting. Lots of 64s. Wow.
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    I won an ANACS VG-8 on Yahoo auctions the other day...gonna crack it out and put it in the Dansco image
    Now if I could just find a no-problem 85 at a reasonable price....
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    In addition to the typical soft strikes, this issue is usually found with subdued, satiny luster.

    In fact, if one is not familiar with these characteristics, it is pretty easy to mistake a choice (or better) mint state piece for a lightly circulated one. They just don't look too nice, most of the time.
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    haletjhaletj Posts: 2,192 ✭
    I've always considered a well struck 12-s nickel (in ms63 or ms64) a coin I should buy no matter what if I see one for sale. I saw two wonderful 1885 nickels for sale yesterday (vg and vf I think) but wanted to save my money for other stuff.
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    Images from Heritage:

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    One of the four coins I still need to complete my high grade Liberty Nickel set. And it's a difficult one for many reasons.

    The biggest is strike. With Liberty Nickels, once you move past the hair and 'Liberty' on the head you look at the 13 stars on the obverse. Can one see the lines that separate the points of each star clearly? It's darned hard to find coins where every star is well defined. Many 12-S nickels don't have good stars. Specifically in the 3 to 5 O'clock positions.

    Even more difficult, is the corn ears near the base of the wreath on the reverse. The right ear tends to strike up fine, and one can see the kernels there on most coins with no problems. But the Left ear... there is the bad boy. On most Liberty Nickels it strikes up weak, and often shows no detail. On 12-S's it is a BIG problem area. I've seen MS65's with no detail there. If Liberty Nickels were as hot as Jefferson Nickels and Mercury Dimes one would hear talk about 'Full ears' or 'Full Kernels' :-)

    Most of the MS coins about today suffer from poor strikes, with a weak strike on the head causing a lack of detail in the hair. As a previous poster noted, this might be because they all came from the same hoard of four or so saved rolls.

    Luster is a problem on this date also. When found, they are often dull and streaked. Again, this speaks toward the supply coming from one (perhaps poorly stored) batch.

    Whenever I've been shopping for this coin I've been thwarted. When I have the cash I can't find one that meets my desires for a solid strike and good eye appeal. When I don't have the cash, such pieces pop up and mock me with their $1500 to $1800 sell prices. Sneaky coins! So it's cost is an issue also for collectors of the series.

    It's in my opinion the 'key' Liberty Nickel. And like many of the S mint Buffalos that follow in the teens, is a hard coin to corral in good shape.

    Hopefully I'll catch on in the next year or so :-)

    Myriads
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    coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great input all.

    Anyone else for read or input?

    John
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I have a VG one, but no pictures of it to post at the moment.
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    stujoestujoe Posts: 1,510 ✭
    I know 2 things about this coin:

    1. I still need it and

    2. When I had the cash for one two years ago at the Silver Dollar show in StL, no one had one in VG or Fine.
    Time sure flies when you don't know what you are doing...

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    WACoinGuyWACoinGuy Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭✭
    I bought one of these earlier this year for my Liberty Nickel set -- one of the most expensive coins in my collection. Though mine doesn't have the best strike, it's better than many other 1912-s' I've seen.
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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 10,000 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's mine.
    Its the best photo's I have, but they dont show the superior luster this coin has.

    To comment on the previous comments, Many of the slabbed 12-s Liberty Nickels that Grade up to an including Ms-64 are often found with drabby surfaces or an olive/greenish yellow tint. Its truly difficult to find one with original nickel color with great preservation and a decent strike.





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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Here's mine, not nearly as nice as the above.

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