Another Fake GRRRR

anoldgoat · November 21, 2003 2:20AM

This 1914-D is up to $87.

mgoodm3 · November 21, 2003 2:24AM

Very true. a 44 convert

NJCollector · November 21, 2003 2:25AM

Why do you believe it is not real?

mgoodm3 · November 21, 2003 2:26AM

Too much space between the 9 and 1, used to be a 4 there.

mgoodm3 · November 21, 2003 2:31AM

real one. can also look for vdb on shoulder, shoulf not be there on real 1914.

not as real

MFH · November 21, 2003 2:33AM

... What amazes me is that this guy paid $700 for this altered coin. Aside from the fact that you can drive a truck between the "9" and the "1", he may not have remembered that there is no "VDB" on Lincoln's shoulder on all geniune 14-D cents. If it sells for more than face value, the new buyer is being taken, and we'll loose another potential collector.

LanLord · November 21, 2003 2:46AM

agreed, 1944d

XpipedreamR · November 21, 2003 2:55AM

Wow, totally fake. too much space between 9 &"1"

Also, it doesn't have the "look" of cents of that era.

Who knows if the seller really paid $700 for this as an authentic 44D.

eisq222 · November 21, 2003 4:22AM

NICE FIND!!!!!!

LanLord · November 21, 2003 4:25AM

<< <i>Wow, totally fake. too much space between 9 &"1" Also, it doesn't have the "look" of cents of that era. Who knows if the seller really paid $700 for this as an authentic 44D. >>

Xpipedreamer, I had the same thought, but I can't place my finger on what looks different, just it doesn't appear the same as Lincolns from the teens.

Dollars · November 21, 2003 10:05AM

Again I learn soo much from reading these boards. I like when you find fakes. Also I LOVE when you tell me why it a fake. Us newbies save soo much money

Thanks

Dave
In Laurel MD

Rob85635 · November 21, 2003 10:36AM

Ditto what Dollars said, thanks all.

Rob the Newbie

lordmarcovan · November 21, 2003 10:46AM

The altered '44-D/'14-D cents are pretty commonly seen, but they aren't the only such alteration. I once found a "1911-S" done the same way (by altering the 4 on a 1941-S). Watch out for whittled-down 4's on any supposed key/semi-key coins from the 'teens. There'll be too wide a gap there. (Plus, as previously mentioned, the "VDB" did not appear under Lincoln's shoulder until 1918).

The 1944 cents were struck from used shell casings from the war, so their color is sometimes a little different. And the relief of the dies used in the 1940's is different from the coins of the 'teens.

Newmismatist · November 21, 2003 12:38PM

<< <i>... What amazes me is that this guy paid $700 for this altered coin. Aside from the fact that you can drive a truck between the "9" and the "1", he may not have remembered that there is no "VDB" on Lincoln's shoulder on all geniune 14-D cents. If it sells for more than face value, the new buyer is being taken, and we'll loose another potential collector. >>

He SAYS he paid $700 - maybe he paid $7 for it as a fake, (or maybe he made it) - also NO RETURNS! - so when the buyer gets his fake he'll be stuck - note you cannot tell from the pictures whether it has the VDB under the shoulder near the rim - so even though that would be certainly definative if it was there, you can't tell from the pictures - (the 9 looks different also - haven't seen a fake/altered 14-D in years, so I don't remember if the 9 is from a different punch than was used in 1914)

JRocco · November 21, 2003 12:52PM

Looks like an altered 44D to me also

goose3 · November 21, 2003 12:54PM

that thing screams FAKE.

Nice catch!

where's scamcrook when you need him! Or did he get Naru'd for doing good deeds?

Another Fake GRRRR

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