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tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
If you had the chance to buy all [or almost all] of a certain coin, would you melt or otherwise destroy most of what you had in order to create a classic rarity?

For instance: There are 10 1884 trade dollars. The finest 1885 trade dollar is worth about $2.5M or so. If you could buy the finest 1884 and the 5 worst of the remaining coins all for the sum of $1M, would you destroy those 5 worst coins in the belief that your finest known coin would then jump in value to $2.5M?

Why or why not?

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    relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    I would melt down 5 common date Morgans instead and show the world my hunk of silver saying there is only 1 left now, but secertely stash the other 5 away
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    No I would not destroy the coins.

    Why? Because I collect for the beauty of the material, and the joy of building my sets. To destroy the other coins for finacial gain wouldn't make sense to me. It's not why I'm here in the hobby. It would also prevent others from finishing thier sets and having the joy that I find in doing mine. To do that would be my definition of selfish.

    I also see myself as a custodian of the collecatbles I own. Yes they are mine, but they also are part of history, and to destroy bits of history is not something I can justify as a good custodian.

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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    To a true collector, the thought of destroying coins of historic value is anathema.

    Further, the reduction of a total number of rare specemins may decrease the future value of the

    finest coin as well as increase the value. With only one specemin, it may tend to decrease interest in the coin

    as it will tend to sequester that one example in a collection or museum for extremely long periods.

    In my opinion, such an act would be the that of a madman ,with total disregard for the numismatic fraternity

    or historic values.
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    Never never never never never. It would be evil to do something like that. There are fewer and fewer untampered with old coins as it is, because people are always trying to do something with them for profit. It's like many people have no respect for the coins themselves. I wouldn't destroy them, or mess with them. I'd just let them be what they are.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    TDN,

    If all it takes is a story, (and perception does tend to be 95% of reality), than Mark's approach would be fine. After the coins are secreted away, just leak the "story" of the mad numismatist.

    Russ, NCNE
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    No way. As a collector I wouldn't destroy rare coins for such selfish purposes. However, the mad numismatist angle does have a certain appeal...



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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭
    Of course not. Think of the 5 future collectors you are denying the pleasure of owning an 1884 Trade Dollar too.

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ROFL. Actually that is scary!

    No! A better idea!

    Buy them up and accidentally leave one of them on the top of the Frdge and send Momma out to buy a dozen eggs. Coin is lost and offer a big reward for its return!

    or stash it away, have the coin officially declared as counterfeit by Mark who is of course bound, blindfolded and gagged and then........ wait 40 years before coming back with the coin and then have Stacks, Bowers, Hall, Heritage & Superior auction firm sell off the coin to an enthralled audience.
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    coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    That is pure greed, and no. I would not do it. I collect for enjoyment, not for profit.
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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    how about buying them all and hide them all away


    and then say that actually there are only 2 in existance and all the others on the population reports are resubmitts after different curating methods.

    then challenge anyone to bring/show at exhibit along with your 2 coins at a major show.

    proving once and for all that only 2 exist and not 10 (the others were counterfeit as well)image
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my opinion, such an act would be the that of a madman ,with total disregard for the numismatic fraternity

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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you had the chance to buy all [or almost all] of a certain coin, would you melt or otherwise destroy most of what you had in order to create a classic rarity? >>


    You been hanging around the Taliban too long? That's what they said about some old Buddhist statues...
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    << If you had the chance to buy all [or almost all] of a certain coin, would you melt or otherwise destroy most of what you had in order to create a classic rarity? >>


    Let's rephrase this a little and see what we get.

    << If you had the chance to buy all [or almost all] of a certain coin such as say the coins from the WTC comex vault, would you slab most of what you had with a pedigree in order to create an item you could hype for a good profit? >>

    Same motivation, same greed.

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