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Bid strategy when there are multiples of the same item in an auction

Let's say there are three of the same coins in an auction in consecutive lots. The grades aren't identical but they are close enough (and grade rarity isn't a factor) so there probably won't be a big difference in price. Is there any strategy involved when bidding for one of the lots? Go for the first one? Last one? Or doesn't it matter?

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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    One with least bids.
    What kind of auction?
    Internet all lots close at the same time of live where they close in lot order?

    Live the second.
    Internet type dosen't matter.
  • gemtone65gemtone65 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭
    In theory you should do best waiting for the last one, since you may have reduced the number of competing bidders by two. In practice, I go after the one with the highest quality regardless of order. because there is already so much competition that reducing it by two may not matter much.
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Good point, Placid. I'm thinking about live auctions. You're saying try for the middle one?

    gemtone65, I did think about that, but figured if that was the conventional wisdom it would be self-defeating.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Yes I think that one would be best. If you are at the auction then you can decide based on the activity but if you have to pick ahead of time I would try for the middle one.

    I have watched alot of live auctions and the last coin usually sells for the most.
    I think its the well it's gotta be this one now or none thing.
  • If this is Ebay, decide ahead of time how much you are willing to pay, then bid that on the first one. If it fails, bid it on the second, etc. Or do they end at the same time?
  • I actually think that you should make your best bid (ahead of time) on the first one. If you get outbid then go for the second. But usually, people will back away if there is serious interest and think THEY have 2 more shots.

    HAVE A GREAT DAY! THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!
  • If it's ebay.......use an auction sniper to bid on groups...if one wins, it cancels the rest.
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I am bidding via internet I usually just screw up, place bids on all of them and win em all! Anybody need a J723 I have an extra?image
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buy em all and return the ones you don't like!image
    theknowitalltroll;
  • what are the chances someone will take all 3?

    first probably will be lowest, as others with wait strategy will be bidding on other 2
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The old "calculus of marriage" problem image

    In the book Innumeracy in America, the author rants for many pages about how we all can't add, etc. etc. and then finally advocates that when deciding who to marry, we should employ his "calculus of marriage" algorithm. IIRC, it suggests that average debutante will have seven suitors. Of course, once she says "no", that bachelor is done and she has to go on to the next one.

    The optimal strategy, according to this book, is to pass on the first two men, then take the next one who is higher rated than the first two.

    So, assuming all the coins are EXACTLY equal, I would pass on the first two and then take the next one with a lower price image
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Let's say there are three of the same coins in an auction in consecutive lots. The grades aren't identical but they are close enough (and grade rarity isn't a factor) so there probably won't be a big difference in price. Is there any strategy involved when bidding for one of the lots? Go for the first one? Last one? Or doesn't it matter? >>



    Use a snipe program like PhantomBidder that allows you to do "Group Bidding". Basically, it'll keep sniping on a series of auctions until it wins one, and then it stops. It's invaluable for situations like this.
  • I tried what WhiteWashQtr suggested when two scarce proof Jeffersons came up for auction one week apart. I won the first one and the second went for quite a bit more than mine. I guess more than one person was hoping the second would be cheaper, but then realized that there were no more for sale so they had to bid the second one up.


  • Go for the one that has best eye appeal if the technical grades are equal.

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