Comments Please on my new GSA Morgan--Coin Received

morganbarber · October 23, 2003 12:51PM

1. What do you think PCGS would grade it?

2. Why again, should I not crack it out and submit it?

It looks 65 to me. If I'm right and CCs get bumped a point, then that would make it a 66. Yes I know the strike is weak above the ear. Please comment. I have never paid this much for a coin. I hope my link works.
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mgoodm3 · October 23, 2003 12:53PM

I'll try to link to it for ya.

Russ · October 23, 2003 12:54PM

I think it has too many hits to the cheek and neck to get in to a 66 holder. I'm also concerned about the luster, but that may just be the image.

Russ, NCNE

gsaguy · October 23, 2003 12:56PM

MB,

I'd not count on a 66 just yet. It's tough to tell from that pic, but it does look relatively clean. However, rotate the coin a fraction of an inch and it may look dramatically different. If it does grade 65, then you'll do well with what you paid.

As for certification, if you've just got to get it certified, leave it in the GSA holder and send it to NGC. You'll do better than cracking it out and selling it in a PCGS holder with GSA on the label. JMHO.

GSAGUY

Placid · October 23, 2003 12:58PM

A nice 64 probably. The strike looks a little weak to get 65 the wing lines are not strong as well as the top of the tail besides the obverse.
Not sure about cracking it out,probably better left as a gsa.

stman · October 23, 2003 1:03PM

I believe if you look at it real close.... you bought a ms64 for about ms64 money.

Trooper · October 23, 2003 1:08PM

I like it!! It looks great at any grade...

Tom

mintluster · October 23, 2003 1:18PM

I want to say MS65 because it is clean but it appears to lack MS65 mint luster. So it may get slabbed a 64. But I could tell easier if I were holding it and looking at it. Definately in the MS64/65 range from PCGS. I DO have a few PCGS 65's that look like this, so that may be a positive sign for you.
IF IT WERE ME - I would send it to PCGS but that is because I am a PCGS member and I trust them and have always done well in respect to receiving grades I had predicted before hand. But that is because I am very selective with what I send to them.
Your coin is worthy of a PCGS slab my friend!

morganbarber · October 23, 2003 1:32PM

Thanks for your comments, and thanks mgoodm3 for the picture. There are larger ones at the linked site if anyone is interested. I guess I can't really decide what to do until I see the coin in person.

Tassa · October 23, 2003 4:45PM

When it comes to GSAs, I wouldn't recommend cracking them out of their holders. If it were mine, I'd submit it to NGC since they grade them in the GSA holders. I'd probably submit expecting a 64, but holding out a little bit of hope for a 65.

By the way-Nice looking coin.

morganbarber · October 29, 2003 5:50AM

I received this coin today. I don't want to go so far as to accuse the seller of "trick photography", but the coins does look different than the scan on the auction. The coin shows both more luster, and more contact marks than the pictures. There is even the die crack around the obverse stars which were not evident on the scan. For those who supposed that I may have paid in the neighborhood of MS64 money for an MS64 coin, I think that you were pretty much on the mark. It's a pretty nice 64, but I doubt any better. It is not PL, but is blast white and flashy.

stman · October 29, 2003 6:04AM

Thanks for the update. I had no question it would have luster in person. Scans just don't show luster and can't be taken as an absolute. As far as marks, they usually are going to show up more in person than a simple scan. Just take into consideration what you can see and figure it's gonna be worse.... if not, YOU win.

agentjim007 · October 29, 2003 6:14AM

It's the soft light he used. Inhibits luster as well as contact marks (an old trick). I just read in the back of the Numismatic news Littleton pays $140 for decent 1884-cc in clean cases, this would probably stick with them, you did alright.

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