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Coin Dr's are scum sucking pigs, coin albulm toning is fine but the rest ....

Everyone knows how I feel about dipping coins, but those that deliberatly Dr coins to make money are scum sucking pigs!!!

I don't generally resort to name calling but deliberatly bragging about doing this to make money makes my blood boil and the people who pay moon money for the "picaso look" are contributing to the problem. Oh well, If the experts at pcgs and ngc can't tell you've done this and you make money at it, that makes it all o.k. right ??? B. S. !!!!!!

Les
The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Amen!
    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Les - That was a useful example in helping me make my case for the decriminalization of marijuana. Chill out, dude! image

    Edited to say that I like your thread heading!
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    Les, The AT stuff is here to stay as too many new collectors have been led to believe "neon green and laser blue" not to mention other colors are naturaly found on coins. Sure a few coins have achieved these colors naturaly but 99% of them are not natural. Not only have the coin doctors created these colorful coins but they have created the market to go along with them. image mike
  • JohnZJohnZ Posts: 1,732
    Still not an issue on the darkside. If you find a nice old Brazilian toner, you can be 99.999999% certain that it's the real thing.

    We ARE watching you.

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  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    John,

    My wife allready collects darkside stuff, but at the larger local show I'm going to in a few days I might see if I can find some nice dark side toners.

    Les
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.


  • << <i>Everyone knows how I feel about dipping coins, but those that deliberatly Dr coins to make money are scum sucking pigs!!!

    I don't generally resort to name calling but deliberatly bragging about doing this to make money makes my blood boil and the people who pay moon money for the "picaso look" are contributing to the problem. Oh well, If the experts at pcgs and ngc can't tell you've done this and you make money at it, that makes it all o.k. right ??? B. S. !!!!!!

    Les >>

    IMO - This is why I wish they would not slab ANY TONED COINS at all. Even the toners that people say are "natural" are not. How is it "natural" when a coin is placed in an environment which tones the "natural" silver color to a darkened black. It does that because of the chemicals that are in contact with it.
    People will always tone coins on purpose and sell them because their are so many people (especially around here) who collect them so the market for them is quite active. If their were no market for them, then nobody would do it.
    IMO all toned coins are ugly and take away from the original look the coin had. A fresh new coin right out of the mint is the look we should all crave for. That is how the coin was intended to look.
  • JoshLJoshL Posts: 656 ✭✭
    "Natural" toners are beautiful!!! I love DMPL Morgans...but I will take a Rainbow Morgan any day!
    I love coins...image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO all toned coins are ugly and take away from the original look the coin had.
    -mintluster

    Well, coins put in cardboard holders for a long time sometimes tarnish, and not always unattractively:

    not ugly, IMO

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    You know, Carol should make a forum just for the AT/NT/toned/blast/etc threads. I personally would prefer to see more education on this board regarding toning and dipping and less ranting about the same thing every 3-4 hours.

    Neil
  • baccarudabaccaruda Posts: 2,588 ✭✭

    IMO - This is why I wish they would not slab ANY TONED COINS at all. Even the toners that people say are "natural" are not


    So, 100 year-old silver that is still "blast white" is natural? Maybe if it was kept suspended in a vacuum...



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  • wow , as a somewhat newby I cannot believe how many forum members hate colored coins
    Michael
  • Thanks for the responces, just a couple things I'd like to add 1. Allthough some only consider "bag toned" coins as natural I would also consider coin albulm toning as natural, but The coin albulms themselves should change since it has long been known that they cause coins to tone.

    I prefer toning that looks natural to neon colored coins even if they are slabbed as market acceptable, Michael talks about liking the thick skinned original white coins the most, I agree with that but those coins are few and far between. At least on Mint State pieces with toning the 2 things I look for the most are believable non neon color and full unbroken luster bursting thru the toning, I much prefer those to coins that look painted or dipped.

    I guess what started this thread was seeing some people in another thread admitting and even bragging about "working" coins another words that some forum members are coin Dr's and proud of it and bragging that half their crap gets by pcgs so that makes it O.K.
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    Les
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I had to only collect blast white coins, I don't think I'd collect at all! image
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mintluster,

    It's a fact that on occasion neon colors occur naturally on coins (most often through storage in the mintbag). How anyone can call the mintbag not a natural process is beyond me. The mintbag is from the mint. The coin goes into the mintbag. The mintbag sits for decades before being opened. This is the process since the mint's inception. Billions of coins go through this process. How can this not be considered a natural process?

    I agree with a prior response here that the vast majority of blast white coins have been dipped (including your icon). If you think about that, you might say it's not natural to dip a coin!

    THE MINT DOES NOT USE DIP!
    THE MINT DOES NOT HAVE A PROCESS OF DIPPING FOR COINS (like they do for putting coins in bags)!
    DIPPING HAS BECOME MARKET ACCEPTABLE!

    In fact, the unmolested toned coins (especially the neon ones!) ARE more original.


  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    Are there any coins besides Morgan dollars with natural "bag toning" ?

    Les
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.

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