Cleaned!!! Marks by the beak. IMHO But I don't know much about Morgans. Edited below I change my mind, this coin has not been cleaned and would grade AU55. I'm sticking with that!
I paid good money for a Morgan that was advertized as BU. I thought it looked great but PCGS bodybagged it as "cleaned". Looks very much like yours, sorry.
cleaned, but nice strike. better than au50, but because of cleaning i would just stay away. fields not too bad.
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According to Van Allen, luster is average for the 79-P because of long die use. That may explain why the luster looks a little flat. But a nicely struck coin, IMO, even if it has likely been dipped (like all of my Morgans .)
I'm a newbie collector by far yet. I read alot, I go to shows, I visit dealers and spend hours sucking in everything I can that I find of interest and one topic that always perks up everywhere you go is cleaning. Personally I don't see the big deal depending on the metal your working with.
I.E. Would you acid dip a copper penny in jewerly cleaner....probably a poor choice as it would pit the copper, however, if your gold or silver ring were to get tarnished from lets say oh wearing it on your finger, which causes oxidation, which causes tarnish...would you not then take the ring to the jewler to be professionally cleaned....so what is the difference with a coin if its cleaned properly with the proper solutions for the proper metals being cleaned as to not cause damage (after all our own minting process in this county involves cleaning the metal planchets, dies, hubs, and so forth before we ever see the coins sooooooooo.....) If it were such a bad thing then I don't think a jewler would risk a $10,000.00 diamond/gold ring to be soaked when it is his liability if he damages the product.
I guess my point being is if you don't know what you are doing and you over clean a coin it deserves a body bag but if you truly love what you are doing and put in the effort to research what you are doing there are ways to preserve the luster and beauty of a coin without damaging it by cleaning. If you can't do it yourself then pay somebody like ANACS to do it for you.
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But I don't know much about Morgans.
Edited below
I change my mind, this coin has not been cleaned and would grade AU55. I'm sticking with that!
I thought it looked great but PCGS bodybagged it as "cleaned".
Looks very much like yours, sorry.
I.E. Would you acid dip a copper penny in jewerly cleaner....probably a poor choice as it would pit the copper, however, if your gold or silver ring were to get tarnished from lets say oh wearing it on your finger, which causes oxidation, which causes tarnish...would you not then take the ring to the jewler to be professionally cleaned....so what is the difference with a coin if its cleaned properly with the proper solutions for the proper metals being cleaned as to not cause damage (after all our own minting process in this county involves cleaning the metal planchets, dies, hubs, and so forth before we ever see the coins sooooooooo.....) If it were such a bad thing then I don't think a jewler would risk a $10,000.00 diamond/gold ring to be soaked when it is his liability if he damages the product.
I guess my point being is if you don't know what you are doing and you over clean a coin it deserves a body bag but if you truly love what you are doing and put in the effort to research what you are doing there are ways to preserve the luster and beauty of a coin without damaging it by cleaning. If you can't do it yourself then pay somebody like ANACS to do it for you.
just my 2 cents
matt
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003