Is this a mint error (Large Cent)

techeff · October 21, 2003 10:04AM

The reverse has the same effect except it's not as pronounced and the lines go in a different direction (upper left to lower right). Please excuse the crud...

nwcs · October 21, 2003 10:12AM

I tend to think it is post mint damage because the rims look fine.

grip · October 21, 2003 10:13AM

That sure is weird,the lines dont go thru the stars and date?.Counterfit?,or acid treated?.

mgoodm3 · October 21, 2003 10:15AM

At first look it look like environmental damage, but then notice that some of the grooves don't go through the numbers or stars and continue on the otherside. The other interesting part is the the relief features go through the bottom of the grooves, kinda like you see on laminations. I would lean toward bad planchet prior to striking.

techeff · October 21, 2003 10:16AM

>>That sure is weird,the lines dont go thru the stars and date?.Counterfit?,or acid treated?.<<

That's the first thing I noticed... The lines don't go through any of the stars or the rim.

techeff · October 21, 2003 11:09AM

Someone from minterrornews.com says it looks to have been "buffed or acid treated."

If that's the case then why weren't the stars, numbers or rim damaged? Does anyone disagree with the minterrornews.com opinion? Thanks for your feedback!!

darktone · October 21, 2003 11:21AM

what's the blue stuff? mike

techeff · October 21, 2003 11:27AM

>>what's the blue stuff? mike<<

it's actually black crud. comes through as blue in the pic...

grip · October 21, 2003 11:33AM

Have you tryed weighing the coin?.It will not determin the groves,but at least you have one thing out of the way

techeff · October 21, 2003 12:25PM

Here's the REV. It has the same effect, but not as pronounced and moving in a different direction... Thanks for your feedback!

grip · October 21, 2003 1:04PM

What's the blue,looks like some kind of chemical?

darktone · October 21, 2003 1:10PM

I gave this some thought. Could it have been enameled and the stars and rim were left untouched? really looks like damage the more I look at it. mike

techeff · October 21, 2003 1:17PM

grip, the blue is actually light green (maybe a little copper corrosion). it looks blue from the lighting. if it was chemically treated then it's curious why the stars and numbers weren't effected.

i just took this coin out of a flip that it's been in for approx. 40 years. my father picked it up in the 50s...

grip · October 21, 2003 1:33PM

I thought the same thing,why arent the stars date,and rim effected.Maybe someone with to much time on there hands,carved? Dont know ,but would like to.

techeff · October 21, 2003 1:41PM

grip, do you think it's worth sending to PCGS for evaluation? thanks!

mgoodm3 · October 21, 2003 2:43PM

If you look at the depression along the lower neck where it meets the drapery that's kinda shaped irreg, not like a scratch would be. Look kinda like a lamination. Also if you look at where it crosses the line of the front of the neck, the line of the neck goes through the depression. If it were a scratch or damage you would not see the line of the neck inside. Also in the hair the hairlines extend through the depression similarly. Go scratch a coin and see if you see the relief of the coin within the gouge. Picture aren't working too well at moment may need to reload image several times to get them.

Added: Corrosion may have brought out the planchet flaws. Looks kinda porous otherwise.

seanq · October 21, 2003 11:30PM

Definitely weigh it. It looks to me like a layer of the planchet could have split off before the strike.

Not that you asked, but even if it is a Mint error, I woudln't expect it to bring much of a premium as such.

Sean Reynolds

FredWeinberg · October 22, 2003 1:12AM

This large cent is damaged, and not a mint error.

Can't tell if it's corrosion, been buried in the ground, or whatever,
but it's "altered surfaces" or "damage" for sure......

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

Fred Weinberg

goose3 · October 22, 2003 1:14AM

COOL!
Fred Weinberg is here now!!

theFonz · October 22, 2003 1:18AM

I also think this is a damaged coin that is corroded. Who knows what this coin has been through in its life.

theFonz

mgoodm3 · October 22, 2003 1:19AM

I believe that put this issue to bed. That is Fred Weinberg chiming in.

nwcs · October 22, 2003 1:21AM

He also has the record for fewest posts since joining.

But welcome Fred and thank you for clarifying this for us!

You're welcome to stay in our coinatopia.

Is this a mint error (Large Cent)

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