Rainbow MORGAN & BUFFLO.....AT vs. REAL?

tsacch · October 20, 2003 10:36AM

ok, i love rainbow buffalos and so does my kid.......she is 11 and she actually came across this seller.... ryandavidcoins on the bay and is willing to put her hard earned $$$$$$$ up for these $0.05's........I am hesitant as they all look very similar and are ungraded. I know to buy the coin and not the slab, well, these aint got no slabs, so let me ask you experts.........return policy not stated and yet to be asked.....

opinions please?????

AT or real?
another
and another.....
and yet another.......

Russ · October 20, 2003 10:43AM

I believe all of those to be natural toning.

Russ, NCNE

jom · October 20, 2003 10:43AM

I believe they are all AT BUT the question is whether YOU like them. I kind of liked the 2nd one (I think that was the one).

There are several things you might want to ask:

1) Return policy?
2) HOW much it will cost you to return it?
3) Get a picture of the reverse of these

All coins are worth something so it you LIKE the coin(s) then bid appropriately.

jom

jonesy · October 20, 2003 10:43AM

Lots of bad feedback.

ClausUrch · October 20, 2003 10:48AM

The toning looks nice but are they really UNC??? They look AU at best.

jom · October 20, 2003 10:51AM

<< <i>The toning looks nice but are they really UNC??? They look AU at best. >>

Good point and another reason to get a picture of the reverse. The reverse is the best place to see if it's AU or not.

jom

tsacch · October 20, 2003 10:53AM

judging by the obverse pics, or lack of close up detail, its hard to tell for me strike quality vs ciculation wear, especially in the high end AU grades.

I am still not conviced they are real......or fake for that matter..........

FC57Coins · October 20, 2003 10:56AM

My gut tells me to pass on those - so I wouldn't go for them.

Here's an MS64 I just bought - note the differences in this one compared to those:

tsacch · October 20, 2003 11:00AM

look at his other auctions, the pennies look cleaned for the most part..........

washed out luster

tsacch · October 20, 2003 11:10AM

and this morgan is real............NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

coinguy1 · October 20, 2003 11:15AM

My very strong suspicion (I need to leave a little bit of wiggle room - about a 3% possibility

) is, that they are NOT naturally toned and that they have been at least lightly circulated.

jom · October 20, 2003 11:15AM

<< <i>strike quality vs ciculation wear >>

Actually, that is why you need to see the reverse. The weak strike areas are NOT the same as the high point of wear. Which is actually a big help when it comes to grading these....

Edit: The Morgan is AT and IHC has been cleaned.

Avoid this guy...

jom

tsacch · October 20, 2003 11:20AM

Jom,

I have low bids in on a couple coins and doubt i will win them.........but for learning sake, i am willing to win at the bid price I put in. I just got a rainbow peace that was so obviously AT, but had to do it just to have and show the kids and others that are always debating me.

Thanks for the input.

tom

Shamika · October 20, 2003 12:03PM

They could be naturally toned, but they are not mint state.

relayer · October 20, 2003 12:55PM

Try putting some buffalos in a tin can out in the rain and you can get the same effect.

ElmerFusterpuck · October 20, 2003 2:16PM

Something doesn't look quite right about those coins, but they could have been high grade circulated ones sitting in an album for awhile. See attached pics for my NGC 64 1926 buff...

uofa1285 · October 20, 2003 2:56PM

Circulated, cleaned and natural album toned...I am certain.

Doug

eagle7 · October 20, 2003 3:06PM

I agree with Doug. I would not be a buyer of those coins.

Rainbow MORGAN & BUFFLO.....AT vs. REAL?

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