carbon spot on a lincoln how much does it matter

pow012000 · September 27, 2003 2:01PM

I have 1974d lincoln it has sweet looking luster, nice strike,everything about this coin says MS68, but it has a carbon spot on the reverse, on the rim just above the letter T in UNITED, u think they still will grade it MS68 or down it MS67 or lower??? you can see it with the nakid eye..... well at least its not on Lincoln himself or on the memoral its up on the rim..Please let me know what you all think THANK YOU David

melikecoins · September 27, 2003 2:12PM

It will get a MS66RD at most
Most likely a MS65RD

Glen

LincolnCentMan · September 27, 2003 2:14PM

Probably looking at 65RD.

David

coppercoins · September 27, 2003 6:59PM

Carbon spots kill. There is no cure, there is nothing you can do about them, and they damage the coin. Same as cancer.

LucyBop · September 27, 2003 7:04PM

No Carbon for me!

MacCoin · September 27, 2003 8:50PM

if it were mine I be looking for a upgrade. well unless it for a whiteman folder

ColonialCoinUnion · September 27, 2003 10:48PM

On a relatively modern coin I'd say its absolutely something you don't want and its a serious negative.

On a 19th or even 18th century coin with some original red a carbon spot doesn't both me at all. In fact I think its an indication that the coin is probably original, as someone dipping or doctoring a coin to make it appear red would not leave a carbon spot behind.

cladking · September 27, 2003 11:01PM

I know it hurts and future collectors may think we're crazy for it, but usually coins
like this just get spent. If it's just a very tiny spot I'll sometimes stabilize it in acetone
and go ahead ands save it. A lot of the cents in mint sets from this era are starting
to spot. It's usually not a particular problem with the '74 but it's seen more and more
each year. Roll coins seem to have more problems with the overall surface and less
problem with the carbon spots.

MadMonk · September 27, 2003 11:40PM

I've always thought of copper collectors as the fussiest (rightly so) of all collectors. So, my thought is that it would be a tough sell in any grade. I really wonder if NCS would screw it up?

jonesy · September 27, 2003 11:43PM

I got a question. I submitted a 1957D Lincoln Cent with spots on it to PCGS. The coin is extremely shiny. It got a MS66RD grade. If water spots are dark, and carbon spots are dark, where do you draw the line??

Shamika · September 27, 2003 11:53PM

I don't recall seeing a water spot that was as dark as a carbon spot, but if it is, then it's treated as a carbon spot. Most water spots are faint and will not preclude a coin from being graded MS67RD if it isn't in a focal area.

Regarding the 74-D, it won't grade 67RD. Sorry pow012000. I know your pain.

Bustman · September 28, 2003 1:48AM

I thought water spots are usually white-ish or even opaque at certain angles. How does a small water spot affect the grade on a coin , if at all? Also, are water stains mint made or a tell tale sign the coin has been rinsed or dipped?

jonesy · September 28, 2003 1:49AM

If they are not water spots, the 57D has about 14 carbon spots on it!!

jdimmick · September 28, 2003 2:08AM

Dont buy copper with spots of carbon. You will lose in the long run.

Since it looks like its a inexpensive date, select another.

cladking · September 28, 2003 2:14AM

Carbon spots are jet black, though sometimes will be briefly lighter colored
as they are developing.

carbon spot on a lincoln how much does it matter

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