little upset about this...........
jbsteven
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I sent in a NGC slabbed Mercury dime to PCGS that is pedigreed to Eliasberg for crossover at any grade. They are sending it back DNC.
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JB, seriously, why not contact PCGS directly, rather than mention it here? Maybe they missed the "crossover at any grade" part? Either way, it sounds like a fairly minor issue, even if it feels otherwise.
Is it a coin that is easy to look up the pedigree on? Or is it a coin that probably came from a roll?
Did you write any in the min grade section or leave it blank?
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Russ, NCNE
PCGS said that they will not holder it because it has PVC damage. Bummer to not see a pedigreed coin to Eliasberg in a PCGS holder........ever, as they said because of the PVC.
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How could an Eliasberg coin have PVC damage? I would assume it is an excellent specimen that was scrutinized carefully by
Eliasberg prior to becoming part of his collection. After that I would be 1000% sure it was not stored in PVC prior to being slabbed
at NGC.
Do you see any evidence of the PVC?
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Agree with the NCS/NGC then PCGS route, unles it has toning you want to preserve.
It is possible that the coin has trace amounts of PVC if the coin was stored in a PVC auction flip after the sale, or subsequently improperly stored in a PVC flip. Of the several Eliasberg Mercs I've owned in NGC holders, only 1 had trace amounts of PVC on the reverse, but nothing serious.
edited to add: The PVC should be removable without affecting the toning if done correctly.
dragon
Sounds like you got screwed
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<< <i>Agree with the NCS/NGC then PCGS route, unles it has toning you want to preserve. >>
NCS can remove PVC without affecting toning. Matter of fact, I've done it myself with acetone - although I wouldn't attempt it on a coin with real value. I'd leave that to them.
Russ, NCNE
There is at least some possibility that Mr. Eliasberg bought the coin sight-unseen. He likely did that, with at least some of the coins in his collection, as he sometimes acquired large groups/collections of coins at one time, from those who supplied him. I suspect that he didn't give the dime the scrutiny (or care about it, the way) he did MANY other, far more significant coins in his collection.
beartracks42,
No reason to think what happened with PCGS was necessarily "a load of BS", unless you saw the coin in person and are certain it doesn't suffer from PVC damage. Also, if PCGS stated that the coin had "PVC" damage", that is technically, different from "PVC" itself - "PVC damage" often means that the PVC has eaten into the surface of the coin. If that is the case, the damage is irreversible, and we're talking about a different scenario from one where a coin has PVC which can be removed.
That said, if the coin had been submitted to PCGS right after it sold in the Eliasberg sale and was accompanied by documentation of its pedigree, I bet it would not have been body-bagged.
I agree though hat it would be odd for these coins to have PVC. the last of his coins was acquired in th 1940's I believe and were in hard plastic panels from then until the sales in the 80's and 90's. Where would they have come into contact with PVC execpt in the auction flips? If that is the case then the PVC they are seeing is most likely oil from the auction flips and it can easily be removed withou hrting the coin.