Please grade my new 1860 $10...Update, will I get the coin?

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• Placid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:01PM

  Probably au55 or ms 62.

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• airplanenut Posts: 22,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:02PM

  AU53 or 55... not MS.

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• clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:05PM

  EF45

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• Blade Posts: 1,744 ✭

  September 19, 2003 3:07PM

  AU50... but doesn't it tell you on the top of that plastic holder?

  Tom
  
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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:10PM

  Blade,
  
  I do not always believe the holder, and I expect that you do not either. This early green PCGS holder says VF-25, and I bought the coin tonight at the VF-25 price. I am going to resubmit, and I would expect something in the 40-50 range.
  
  Robert

  My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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• clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:11PM

  Are you going to crack it out before resubmitting it?

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• Placid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:13PM

  Thats a nice 25 unless the reverse looks alot worse.

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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:14PM

  clw,
  
  Most likely...though my cracking skills are quite lame. Last time I cracked a bunch, I dropped an ICG MS-63 1907 Saint $20 into the garbage can. I pulled it out, sent it to PCGS, and it came back as a MS-64. Dumb luck sure beats no luck at all!

  My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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• Blade Posts: 1,744 ✭

  September 19, 2003 3:16PM

  RYK - Sweet. WAY more definition than I thought you would see on a VF. Good luck.

  Tom
  
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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:18PM

  Placid, the reverse appears to be consistent with the obverse:
  
  
  
  

  My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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• Placid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:22PM

  I don't understand how pcgs got a 25 on that the reverse looks at least 35 but the picture is a little small. Anyway nice find

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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:26PM

  Edited to eliminate large file.
  See above.

  My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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• clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:31PM

  No matter the grade, I like that coin. It's circulated, but not damaged. Very nice looking..

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• Placid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 3:36PM

  Looks 35-40 to me. I think I would crack it if I was going to resubmit it as pcgs might be to embarrased to give it more than +5 points

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• Baley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 5:02PM

  Minimum 35 and maybe 45 with a slim chance at 50. 53 or higher seems a little high unless the luster looks better than the scans, which it might.
  
  nice old no motto coin, old undergraded holder.

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• Bugs Posts: 166

  September 19, 2003 5:04PM

  I'm on dial up...was well worth the 30 min. wait to see the coin...WOW!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Just kidding...only took about 5 min!
  
  ~*Bugs*~

  

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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 9:54PM

  I am probably going to send it to NGC. They are a bit more...how shall we say...generous...with 19th century gold. I fully expect 40. I have 45 and higher coronet eagles and half eagles that do not look as nice and original as this 1860 $10.
  
  Robert

  My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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• darktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭

  September 19, 2003 10:58PM

  Robert, after seeing the reverse I will have to say AU50. Good eye! mike

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• KlectorKid Posts: 3,723 ✭

  September 19, 2003 11:22PM

  I'm thinking 45.

  

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• jdimmick Posts: 9,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 20, 2003 1:49AM

  RYK,
  
  Good find, that coin is easily better than a 25. You need to submit it raw to maximize the upgrade potential.
  
  I can see you recieving a 40.
  
  Man after this thread, I know I got to get off Dial up!!!
  
  jim

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• mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭

  September 20, 2003 2:45AM

  I was looking through the ANA grading pictures. It certainly lloks better than their VF picture but isn't as nice as their EF picture. I would put it as VF30 or 35.

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• PoPoY888 Posts: 28

  September 20, 2003 3:07AM

  It's a beaut coin, look like obv and rev are consistent. I'll give it a 45. Good luck.

  Coin Lover

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• Baley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 20, 2003 5:29AM

  that first picture took 20 seconds to load on cable modem... please don't do that to me again I almost went crazy in that time. Where the heck is that picture coming from? Mars?

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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 20, 2003 6:57AM

  Baley et al,
  
  Sorry about the size of the zoomed pics...they are"closer look" Heritage pictures.

  My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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• Bugs Posts: 166

  September 20, 2003 7:08AM

  RYK...no problem...it was well worth the wait!
  
  Have a GREAT Day,
  
  ~*Bugs*~
  
  

  

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• coinkat Posts: 23,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 20, 2003 10:14AM

  EF 45 is my opinion but if this was won at Auction, why was it not resubmitted first?

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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 26, 2003 6:07AM

  After a week of emailing Heritage to pay for the coin, I had not heard back. I called today, and they seemed a bit confused by the whole thing. They did not have any idea that I won this lot. Based on their ebay feedback, it appears that they have not mastered this format. Will I get the coin in the end? Will we ever how NGC would grade it?
  
  Robert

  My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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• lordmarcovan Posts: 43,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 26, 2003 6:18AM

  Wow, what a nice grab! Definitely undergraded!

  
  
  

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• Stuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

  September 26, 2003 6:37AM

  RYK: I hope that you get the coin from Heritage. Please keep us informed of your progress.

  
  Stuart
  
  Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
  
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• darktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭

  September 26, 2003 8:51AM

  I sure hope you get it! Please keep us informed. mike

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