Once the coin left the ANA show after being declared genuine then it could be switched with a fake at anytime. Maybe the one in long beach this week is a fake?
it is a coin that if it was a common dated coin it would be bb? at the services like ngc??/pcgs?? and no one would care or think otherwise except the submitter!?
but with this major coin one of the so called classic rarities of numismatics and rightly so with the prices realized since the 1950's! a coin that has been popularized in the news on famous television shows and promoted ever since its first appearing to the numismatic world in a numismatic publication in 1919? this coin has been the subject of much desire and romance
and again even moreso promotion........................i mean look at B. max mehl's popularizing coin collecting and his star coin catalogues during the height of the great depression offering to pay $50 dollars for a 1913 lib nick !!
a coin like this really needs to be evaulated and see what the overall market will accept as one grade on a holder and this is difficult to do with respect to the coins current unique surface qualities and the nature of this " big boy" coin these needs first have to be addressed
so i think
maybe?????????????????? THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT of listening by the powers that be to see what many would call market acceptable grade for this coin by the coin collecting community/the current owners/major players and once this is finalized and the majority of opinion as to WHAT many would accept this coin to be graded on the holder then what can be the meeting of the minds between the owners and the service grading the coin?? then there can be a service that will holder this coin??
Coin was called a fake for 40 years and someone sticks their neck out and calls it genuine. I would have them slab it just for the insurance. If it were to become "fake" again you'd have some recourse.
They should offer to let the grading companies slab it for a fee (how about 6 figures). It would probably be worth the publicity. As to why it hasn't been slabbed, I heard that it was orignally stored in a nice lucite holder, they may want to put it back in there for sentimental reasons.
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Sorry, I got in this thread a few days late. The Walton 1913 Liberty nickel will not be "slabbed" while the heirs own it because the custom-made holder it currently resides in is the same holder in which the coin was housed when it was recovered from the 1962 car wreck that killed George O. Walton. The holder, like the coin, is a direct link to their relative. The Walton family heirs were happy their ancestor was "vindicated" when the coin was authenticated in Baltimore, and thrilled with the reception it received from collectors when it went on display at the ANA World's Fair of Money.
The ANA has produced a very nice, colorful exhibit (which debuted in Long Beach) for the Walton coin -- and its Capital Plastics-type holder in which it has resided all these decades.
-donn- Donn Pearlman
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Nothing against the major grading services, but, good for the family, for respecting the coin and its holder, along with their history and sentimentality!
I guarantee if the coin were of high grade sentimentality would be out the window! That coin is harshly cleaned and is in PCGSs best interest to not slab it!
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WSM - you're making "guarantees" and judgments, without even knowing the people involved. That can be just plain wrong, if not dangerous. And, like it or not, it sounds like it's the choice of the family, not PCGS, whether or not the coin gets certified.
Don't fool yourself (again ) - it WOULD be in the best interest of PCGS, if they were able to have the coin in their holder.
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<< <i>If I had it, I wouldn't slab it. Why??
Maybe because someone might think its fake
Once the coin left the ANA show after being declared genuine then it could be switched with a fake at anytime.
Maybe the one in long beach this week is a fake?
it is a coin that if it was a common dated coin it would be bb? at the services like ngc??/pcgs?? and no one would care or think otherwise except the submitter!?
but with this major coin one of the so called classic rarities of numismatics and rightly so with the prices realized since the 1950's! a coin that has been popularized in the news on famous television shows and promoted ever since its first appearing to the numismatic world in a numismatic publication in 1919? this coin has been the subject of much desire and romance
and again even moreso promotion........................i mean look at B. max mehl's popularizing coin collecting and his star coin catalogues during the height of the great depression offering to pay $50 dollars for a 1913 lib nick !!
a coin like this really needs to be evaulated and see what the overall market will accept as one grade on a holder and this is difficult to do with respect to the coins current unique surface qualities and the nature of this " big boy" coin these needs first have to be addressed
so i think
maybe?????????????????? THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT of listening by the powers that be to see what many would call market acceptable grade for this coin by the coin collecting community/the current owners/major players and once this is finalized and the majority of opinion as to WHAT many would accept this coin to be graded on the holder then what can be the meeting of the minds between the owners and the service grading the coin?? then there can be a service that will holder this coin??
well all circumstancial based on my opinion
I GUESS ONLY TIME WILL TELL
michael
unless of course, the slab is going to carry the "walton" pedigree......
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<< <i>If I had it, I wouldn't slab it. Why??
Maybe because someone might think its fake
Yeah right, like that would ever happen.
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<< <i>stupid to slab a coin like that. as if your going to flip it to some idiot who won't know how to ensure the coin's the real thing!K S >>
You mean like stacks?
<< <i>The coin will slab PF62 or so. It has not been harshly cleaned, so there's no need to body bag it. >>
maybe pcgs would bump it a point for a quick dip?
K S
The ANA has produced a very nice, colorful exhibit (which debuted in Long Beach) for the Walton coin -- and its Capital Plastics-type holder in which it has resided all these decades.
-donn-
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