1865 3 cent nickel with mirror image outline of obverse shown on reverse

oreville · September 11, 2003 4:43AM

I have never seen such a clear outline of the head of liberty on the reverse of this 3 cent nickel before!!!!! It is clearly underneath the design elements of the reverse.

Is this rare? Any added value?

PCGS graded this MS-64 in the green insert.

Discussion?

bigtonydallas · September 11, 2003 4:45AM

Cool! Value depends on how much is visible. Post a pic if you have one.

Tonelover · September 11, 2003 4:46AM

Oreville, strong clashing is fairly common the Three Cent Nickels. Quite often near complete outlines from the opposite side can be seen. No value added as far as I know. They are neat though.

IrishMike · September 11, 2003 5:13AM

Doesn't seem to add any value to IHC's. I have picked up three recently, two 64's and a 65. It makes you wonder what the mint employees were drinking at lunch time back then. I would pay a premium for them, but I am one of Anaconda's so-called coin weenies.

I like yours very much, nice clash.

jadecoin · September 11, 2003 5:19AM

Oreville, clashing is most common on Three Cent Nickels, in my experience. As far as the effect of clashing on a coin's value, it can go either way. We have sold some Three Cent Nickels with heavy clash marks because a collector thought it was "neat" and was looking for clash marked coins. More commonly though, collectors of that series are looking for perfect examples and often find the clashing to be a distraction. Personally, I think that it is interesting and I place a "mental premium" on such pieces. Guess I am a coin weenie like IrishMike.

dorkkarl · September 11, 2003 5:21AM

no added $ value at all. in fact, 1865 w/ absolutely NO evidence of clashing at all are rare.

plenty of added interest value, however!

K S

oreville · September 11, 2003 5:45AM

Well thanks! It is cool looking!

Heck, I wonder if PCGS had downgraded this coin to MS-64 due to the reverse die clashes which could look like bag marks if looking real quickly because it sure looks more like a 65 to me.

Here is the obverse (there is a planchet raised "chip" at 10 o clock!)

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/tbeanie2/DSC02277.JPG

oreville · September 11, 2003 5:47AM

A close up of the obverse:

darktone · September 11, 2003 9:43AM

those are neat oreville! I had one last year with rather well defined clashing- I think I started a thread on it if you do a search I am sure you can find it. mike

jdimmick · September 11, 2003 10:02AM

As stated,

clash marks on three cent nickels are common. I actually prefer not to have them there if heavy.

Others may,

However, I do like that 3 cent nickel. Very nice coin with great eye-appeal.

shylock · September 11, 2003 10:29AM

1865 was a rough year in the mint, there are a lot of 'as struck' oddities in the IH series as well. IrishMike owns an IH from that date that's as deeply clashed as I've seen. I bought this scrubbed 1865 3-Cent Nick on Ebay cheap so he could add it to his cent, maybe start a date set of clashes!

(chin is on top, nose at bottom)

IrishMike · September 11, 2003 1:07PM

Paul you are right I have started two date sets 64 & 65. I'll have to do a picture collage of all of them sometime.

1865 3 cent nickel with mirror image outline of obverse shown on reverse

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