Strange coin auction.

Placid · August 16, 2003 3:16PM

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airplanenut · August 16, 2003 3:18PM

Looks, uh... kinda cleaned...

Placid · August 16, 2003 4:04PM

The seller say's its 2 leaf. But it looks to me like a blonder 5 and thats a 3 leaf.
No picture of the pci slab or the reverse.
99¢ start price.
All together kind of odd for a coin that should sell for over 3k.

Maybe someone else can attrib the coin.

wingedliberty · August 16, 2003 4:50PM

My text reads SEGS not PCI , as if there is a difference really. Both are garbage.
I am assuming everyone has read his negs. He only has 30 feedbacks and already on his third neg.
Avoid like the plague.

spy88 · August 16, 2003 6:52PM

Looks like a coin carved out of wood to me---but I'm no expert.

ms70 · August 16, 2003 9:34PM

Looks like it was buffed on a pretty powerful buffing wheel.

Gemini · August 16, 2003 9:50PM

If this piece of wood

was graded by SEGS as an EX-45 they were being pretty liberal here I think...I see a VF coin at best.

Placid · August 18, 2003 1:28AM

It didn't take very long to go over $3,000. Still 5 days to go

ScarsdaleCoin · August 18, 2003 1:59AM

why do people spend good money for bad coins and no money for good coins?

sinin1 · August 18, 2003 2:30AM

I wouldn't buy anything from this seller - although I may be wrong, it looks like a blow-out where items may not be owned be seller

has been buying and selling low value items and all of a sudden some $3K - $6K items show up = either they guy has been just laid off from work or these are not his coins/items

would you really try to sell a $3K+ coin with only 1 picture?

Robgetty · August 18, 2003 5:56AM

I don't know if I would assume that he didn't own the items. If you
are going to scam with an item you don't own, why not put a PCGS,
NGC or ANACS picture up instead of talking about a lousy company?
(Assuming that he KNOWS it is a lousy grading company)

DCAMFranklin · August 18, 2003 6:09AM

<< <i>He only has 30 feedbacks and already on his third neg. >>

I think I would be more concerned if he was a bidder on one of my auctions. Both of his 2 negative feedbacks are for non-payment. No negatives for selling.

Deadhorse · August 18, 2003 6:47AM

Stay away from this seller!!!

He is very close to getting a neg as a seller and if so it will be my first neg ever given.

I bought a 1900 O/CC at what was a good price almost 2 months ago. I have gotten nothing but a few promises ever since and yes I did pay with paypal.

I have sent several emails with no reply. Finallly, after a threat to go to eBay I got a promise to ship by this Friday. We will see.

I don't believe he actually has the coins he sells, or at least not all of them.

I would stay away from this guy for now.

ElectricEye · August 18, 2003 6:51AM

Check it out ~ he's using a shill or Geraldo has been reborn

legacycoin · August 18, 2003 7:35AM

Classic shill bidding:

High bidder's bid history

The one feedback the current high bidder has is from the seller. Coincidence? Don't think so......

Robgetty · August 18, 2003 1:27PM

Heck, he should at least put some low ball bids in on another seller just to make it look better!

Russ · August 18, 2003 1:33PM

Now, now, maybe that bidder is just a loyal customer.

Russ, NCNE

DHeath · August 18, 2003 1:34PM

Is the Oreville that bought the Redfield that wasn't a Redfield "our" Oreville?

Russ · August 18, 2003 1:43PM

I thought this seller name seemed familiar, and I just realized why.

He had a group of 25 "unopened" proof sets listed that I eMailed him about.

Since the picture in the auction is an open set, I asked him for images of the batch of 25. He replied with some crap about how the sets were on the way to him, so he had to use a borrowed image. Then he closed the auction early.

Now, he has the same "alleged" sets listed again with the same image.

This one looks an awful lot like a scammer. I'm afraid some bidders are going to get burned.

Russ, NCNE

coiNuts · August 18, 2003 1:45PM

What a scary deal this one is.................check out his store on Ebay..........lots of key date coins........big $$$$....and one sad picture per item.........lots of off brand slabs.........scary.......

sinin1 · August 18, 2003 10:36PM

I think this seller may actually have some of the items

If you do a search for items sold in last 30 days by whitney1190 you find something interesting

the shill bidder h47651 does not win many - if they were high bidder all bids get cancelled and auctions closed

they started doing some private auctions, but I am guessing that the same thing occurred

so are they protecting their coin investment OR or they evading eBay fees from the shill purchases on items not owned?

I checked out the store - only items listed are live auction items

I am pretty sure there is enough info to imply shill bidding to shut this guy down - should we send messages to eBay - or watch and see what they do over the next few days?

telecoin · August 18, 2003 11:45PM

Obvious rip-off. Just check out these auctions:1880 dollarand1795 dollarHe's just stealing pictures and listing them himself. The high bidder (h47651) is a shill, no doubt. Anyone who bids on these auction without doing a simple search of ebay is a fool.

sinin1 · August 19, 2003 10:43AM

I still have seen sellers use other photos and have something to send - usually an item that does not look quite as good

Placid · August 19, 2003 11:22AM

The james motto bidder does not seem like a shill bidder.
He spent 5k on a pos ntc cent, poor guy needs some coin education

Placid · September 2, 2003 12:20PM

Ok this one really turned out strange.
The seller left positive feedback for the buyer then a few days later the buyer is no longer a registered user.
I guess the buyer was a shill?

Strange coin auction.

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