Before and After using MS70?

bhsalesman · August 16, 2003 2:18PM

Any pictures of coins they've used MS70 on?

Especially Morgans, Peace dollars, and Washington quarters.

Just wanted an idea of its effectiveness before I use some I've ordered.

Thanks!

bhsalesman

stman · August 16, 2003 2:35PM

Here is one that escaped the bottle.

TWODOGS · August 16, 2003 2:40PM

How about some after shots when someone's used 80 Grit? I run across those coins all the time.

bhsalesman · August 16, 2003 2:41PM

WOW! Now that's nice and I really don't even like toned conis!

Always liked the blast white versions but this is beautiful.

bhsalesman

stman · August 16, 2003 2:43PM

<< <i>WOW! Now that's nice and I really don't even like toned conis! >>

Thank you!!! Just thought I'd give you something to think about.

bhsalesman · August 16, 2003 2:49PM

The toning I want to get rid of is that greenish oxidation that forms on silver dollars and some black marks (looks like OLD ink pen ink) off a 1934 Peace dollar.

I wouldn't dream of dipping any rainbow colors on any coin!

Especially those on your coin!!!

bhsalesman

islemangu · August 16, 2003 3:21PM

Russ posted a good before and after pics on a toned morgan to white morgan about a month ago with dipping. If the MS70 juice is the same as dipping, you can search back for that. Dont expect Russ to find and post it... he said he was too old and tired already

Cam40 · August 17, 2003 3:08AM

I bought a bottle of MS70 in the black bottle.When it ran out,I bought one in the clear? bottle.

They seemed to be a little different in color (the solution). Dark bottle, a darker solution, Light bottle ,lighter colored
solution. Perhaps the newer light bottles are a refinement of the old formula?
I could be wrong but it seemed to me the darker stuff was more slippery and harder to wash clean needing
more water and acetone to effectively remove any remaining MS70 and possible residue.
The `old` stuff I think would / could make some coins tone reddish brown after a short time where as
the new stuff hasnt done this. ..so far..and its been awhile.
They must have refined the original formula?
BTW It still will make your coppers turn purple. Beware of cleaners that say `cleans copper`
to add, Blue Ribbon hasnt turn any of my coppers purple ,or any other color. It may be the ONLY
copper cleaner thats `ok` to use. IMO

stujoe · August 17, 2003 3:24AM

I haven't seen anyone post a before/after picture yet so I will do a simulation...

Before:

After:

Friends don't let friend's dip.

darktone · August 17, 2003 5:27AM

<< <i>The toning I want to get rid of is that greenish oxidation that forms on silver dollars and some black marks (looks like OLD ink pen ink) off a 1934 Peace dollar. >>

bhsalesman- this sounds like PVC residue from the description if so just use acetone and if it is PVC it will desolve. mike

bhsalesman · August 17, 2003 7:53AM

darktone- mike:

I put the coin in some acetone for about 20 minutes and the stuff didn't seem to thin out any. Maybe I didn't soak it long enough?

Since that didn't work, I thought maybe the MS70 would do the trick.

Here's the coin but it looks a bit "greener" than the picture.

I had this photo on another post about 3-4 days back. I have this particular Peace dollar and some Morgans that are about like this. This is the worst quality / detail...the others are better as far as the details in the metal go.

Thanks,

bhsalesman

Todd

Cam40 · August 17, 2003 8:57AM

The cleaning of coins is a touchy subject with collectors. The prevailing attitude among most
is NOT to clean your coins at all cost.But alot of us WILL clean our coins with the idea that your
going to make it shinier and will probably help to preserve it further.
I suppose theres no right answer really. Its all up to the individual and their own view on the matter.

I,m somewhat pro cleaning. Just to the point of removing surface contaminates and such.
But a harsh cleaning with acid-based chemicals etc. or abrasive rubbing I,ll always be against that, as most of us
are I,m sure.
If it were my Peace buck, I,d probably hit it with some MS70 and a Q-tip with multiple water and acetone dips.
Even that could be too much for the coin as you may just make it have that `cleaned` look. Ya know?

I think most old circs all worn and buffed-up all shiney are all junk silver or culls. BUT if they,re worn
and look like they still have original dirt and other crud, they,re worth more than the shiney
whizzed counterpart I think.

IF you do clean it, be easy on it. The acetone dip you did is a great That stuff doesnt react with the alloy at all.
The term is `moving metal` That would be harsh rub to acid bath. Coin cleaning SHOULD be done with the most minimal
of metal moving. There, I said it Thats really it I think.

Happy collecting everyone.

Dog97 · August 17, 2003 9:03AM

If acetone didn't clean it then ms70 probably won't. Sometimes you have to soak the coin for several days in acetone to see results. Using ms70 on circs will sometimes make them unnaturally white & shiny so the best thing for you to do is not mess with it. But since you asked, here's some before & after shots of a coin cleaned with ms 70:

Cam40 · August 17, 2003 9:19AM

Huh. The after pic doesnt look TOO bad IMO.Pic alittle out of focus on the after but,
The coin looked all rubbed flat anyway. I kinda like the curated one better.

JMO

SmallTownCoins · August 17, 2003 11:34PM

Be very carefull with that stuff.... I use to sell it but I do not anymore...
I had a customer last year buy a bottle and used it without hand protection, he came back in a few days later,
and the skin on all his fingers were eaten off... Very nasty site, It did heal up after a couple week's But I made the decission not to sell it anymore.

SDCollector · August 18, 2003 12:56AM

<< <i>this sounds like PVC residue from the description >>

I thought greenish residue from PVC only occurred on copper coins. On silver, PVC causes etching. Correct?

pontiacinf · August 18, 2003 1:22AM

i soaked a 79 type 2 linc with an ultra cam that had a bigg doodie right on lincolnc chin...big carbon doodie...came home in 8 hours, it was gone.

darktone · August 18, 2003 9:30AM

SDCollector, PVC can occur on anything stored in those old soft clear 2x2's or similiar type of plastic. Heck I even had some two dollar bills that were drenched in the stuff after sitting in a an old holder for thirty years. mike

bhsalesman · August 18, 2003 11:35AM

I used some on a copper Lincoln and a crappy 1921 Morgan that was just coated with black mess. The Lincoln looked better...sort of but not like it was acid dipped. I rubbed it with Qtips while it was sitting in the MS70...not bad but I didn't get it for copper.

The Morgan really came out well. A very nice looking coin under the crud and some dang deep scratches too!

Oh well..the stuff has my vote!

It chewed the skin on my fingers good so I went and bought some chemical resistant gloves.

MS70 isn't acid they say and I believe it, but it seems like a really strong alkaline based soap. Like some stuff we use to use detailing cars and cleaning brake dust off rims. It'd take the skin off pretty easy!

bhsalesman

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