Peace dollar high relief?

StCroix · August 16, 2003 5:11AM

Does anyone have photos of high relief Peace dollars next to a regular strike? Are there any other significant differences?

Thanks again for your help.....

Anne

bhsalesman · August 16, 2003 5:33AM

Anne:

I've got 3 from 1921 that are high-refliefs but worn some. You can easily tell the difference, even feel it with your finger if you run it over the coin. The image of Liberty just looks deeper. The eagle on the back looks deeper as well. By deeper, like they are set further into the metal with more relief and definition surrounding the images.

My coins are not super sharp so I don't think a picture on here would help you.

I do not have any 1922's in high relief but sure would like to since they are very rare.

bhsalesman

stman · August 16, 2003 5:43AM

Here is a nice example of a High Relief with a decent strike. I need to run at the moment, maybe someone else can chime in with the difference between the High Relief and regular strike. There are a lot of differences, but not all of the difference is significant.

FC57Coins · August 16, 2003 6:09AM

Anne:

Stman is being modest - his is one of the better ones I've seen out there - they definitely didn't make too many like that one!

Frank

StCroix · August 16, 2003 6:54AM

Is this wishful thinking?? (I hope the link appeared.)

(how do you get the images to appear in the message?)

Thanks,
Anne

ara · August 16, 2003 6:57AM

I believe that high relief Peace dollars were only issued in 1921. Someone more knowledgeable should be right along to confirm or deny.

FC57Coins · August 16, 2003 7:06AM

Anne:

If you look at both coins side by side there is no doubt on your mind which one is high relief and which isn't - the high relief coins will remind you of a miniature 'dish'. Although they made a handful of high relief 1922's, yours unfortunately isn't one of them I don't believe.

Frank

PS - when you're answering messages, there is a lineup of icons below where it says Message Text: the fourth one over is the icon you use to paste pictures into your answer. You copy the address from where you have the picture loaded and voila!

StCroix · August 16, 2003 7:14AM

But when I upload the photo, where does it go?

Sorry to be such a novice at this. And I appreciate the help in identifying the coins. I can certainly see why people collect. It's incredibly fascinating.

Anne

MacCoin · August 16, 2003 7:34AM

I just traded a VF 21 peace dollar for a VF 09S barber half and a XF 24 SLQ.

itsnotjustme · August 16, 2003 7:37AM

Upload the photo just how you did. Open the photo from your own post, then copy the location where PCGS stored it. Then edit your own post to make it display in the post.

islemangu · August 16, 2003 7:39AM

Here are some other high reliefs but do not have a comparison to a regular peace in same shot. Maybe not considered significant but differences yes. Regular peace looks relatively flat. With high relief starting from rim it seems to go down (deep dish) instead of flat level on regular piece. Lady liberty has full face features that come out of coin more. Nice round cheek compared to relatively flat cheek.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/oldattachments/636465Peace1921s%2Ejpg
Anne, I was having the same frustration on posting inside messages instead of attachments but gave up. I used to have that icon that Frank mentioned maybe and could do it then but no longer

My fourth icon over from the right as Frank described is an undo icon.?? Maybe I posted some too heavy pic files in my messages and the administrators here disabled me.?? My only available icon related to links is a earth with chain underneath. Is this the one somehow used for pics in message? Before it was I think a picture frame with something that I used to post pics inside message before disappearred?

StCroix · August 16, 2003 7:53AM

<< <i>Regular peace looks relatively flat. With high relief starting from rim it seems to go down (deep dish) instead of flat level on regular piece.
My fourth icon over from the right as Frank described is an undo icon.?? >>

Thanks. I have so many of them that I was hoping (sigh) that one of them might fit the description, but the two references to deep dish make it clear that mine is (are) not. Now I need to see a high relief in person!

I do have the image button as the 4th one over, but still don't know what the address of the image is. Maybe it's an aol thing, but the addres when I upload a file is:
http://forums.collectors.com/include/uploadbox/uploadframe.cfm?formname=messagepostform&fieldname=FTVAR_ATTACHEDFILESFRM&catid=26&postaction=reply&threadid=214187&messid=1913237

Now I know that can't be right!

Anne

DHeath · August 16, 2003 10:27AM

Anne,

There was indeed a 1922 high-relief Matte proof coin. Farran Zerbe acquired a specimen from George Morgan that was later displayed at the Chase Manhattan money museum as a possible pattern coin. Opinion changed in 1954 when Lester Merkin acquired another example. There have been eight confirmed. Finding another would be quite a discovery.

Oh yeah.....a pic.

DragonAzz · August 16, 2003 11:42AM

Anne,

Here is a very poor scan as I don't have my camera handy but I think you can see the difference when they are side by side.

Granted that the hair on the '21 is flat but I think if you look at the mouth, nose and neck you can easily see the difference.

Conder101 · August 16, 2003 6:12PM

Well I've learned something from this thread. I knew about the 21 high relief, the 22 high relief matte proof, the 22 high relief business strike, and the 22 - 35 low relief business strikes. I knew the 21 and 22 high relief business strikes were from the same hub and I assumed that the 22 high relief matte proof was from the same hub. Now that I have finally seen a good photo of the 22 HR matte proof I see that it is from a different hub!

On posting a picture in the body of the post. Frank said fourth one over but didn't say from which side. It is the fourth one from the LEFT side. As for the address to post into it, if you have used the attachment feature to upload the picture as an attachment, the address to paste in for the image link is https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/oldattachments/XXXXXXX where XXXXXXX is the file name you used for the picture when you uploaded it.

jonesy · August 16, 2003 9:50PM

Use my link for posting Pictures!!

DHeath · August 16, 2003 10:34PM

Conder,

You forgot the 1922 low-relief proof. I figured you might enjoy looking at the wonderful pics Goldberg still has up of the Benson collection. Here is a link. Go look at the pics for lot #2245. That's where the pic I put up is from. It was a COMPLETE set.

StCroix · August 17, 2003 4:59AM

<< <i>Conder,

You forgot the 1922 low-relief proof. I figured you might enjoy looking at the wonderful pics Goldberg still has up of the Benson collection. >>

Wow, Condor is not the only one to enjoy this set.

Thanks!
Anne

Conder101 · August 17, 2003 4:52PM

Ok I didn't mention the lw relief 22 proofs but what interested me was the 22 high relief proof because it does not use the same hub as the 21 high relief (proof and Unc) or the 22 high relief business strike (which uses the same hub style of 21) Instead it uses a high relief version of the hub style of 22. (Actually it doesn't look exactly like the style of 22 but the pictures aren't quite large enough or clear enough to be sure.)

Peace dollar high relief?

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