Grade a Lincoln

anoldgoat · August 15, 2003 10:57AM

I'd like your oppinion on this Lincoln. I bought it on ebay thinking it was one grade now i see i differently. Would you give your grade and oppinion if any on this guy. Before looking it up on ebay.

Thanks, mike

Ebay Link, Don't look till you grade

Placid · August 15, 2003 11:02AM

NM.

stujoe · August 15, 2003 11:05AM

At that angle and no reverse? Well, it looks Brown.

dpoole · August 15, 2003 11:05AM

Looks like an UNC. Don't see any wear. Nice even strike and nice brown color. Looks like there's a hit in the left field that may make it a 64.

cherrypickincoin · August 15, 2003 11:05AM

Lincoln's hair has fantastic detail and I've purchased from this guy before and have no reason to doubt him, I'd say 63-64 BN.

anoldgoat · August 15, 2003 11:25AM

What in the 'ell happened to my pic's, i'll try again.

Edited to see if this pic's posted. I wanted you to look at my pics first but how could you know that without my pic's.

Now look at my pics, please and reaccess

Thanks, mike

LincolnCentMan · August 15, 2003 11:41AM

I've noticed that that seller has been selling a lot of "nice" raw Lincolns on e-bay lately. There have been (and currently are) quite a few that are unquestionbably cleaned. If the guy is going to sell cleaned coins, I dont want to bid on other, seemingly ok, coins and hope that there's nothing wrong with them. It also bothers me that you only get to look at one side on the ones that do look ok... such as this 1916. Just looking at that pic, I'd grade this one 63BN. For 64 and better, you really need to have some luster. You can check out my registry set by clicking on the link below. I have plenty of brown cent experience to draw from.

...and if you really want to see how one can get totaly ripped on a submission, check out the 29-S.

David

LincolnCentMan · August 15, 2003 11:46AM

Mike,

Looking at the new pictures you posted, the coin is no better than AU... probably 55. This is one of the reasons I dont buy from that guy. The pics just arnt good enough for me to buy raw. From his pic, taken at an angle, it looks flat out unc. From yours, you can see some clear wear.

If he sold nothing but cheaper coins, I probably wouldnt think anything of it. I mean, after all, some coins just arnt worth slabbing. But you throw those $100+ "red" coins that arnt in slabs... come on... If he's selling them, I dont trust him enough on the cheap ones.

...just my thoughts.

David

jacktheknife · August 15, 2003 12:01PM

Always difficult to grade with just images, but I would say AU-58 to MS62BN.

I'd agree w/ Lincolncentman, the images you posted clearly make the coin seem worse than the image from the ebay listing, which I checked after giving my opinion above.

anoldgoat · August 15, 2003 12:08PM

Guess i'm spoiled (pardon me by the way). A while back i bought a 31-D advertized as MS 64, a little better pic and both sides. I picked it up for MS60 money. It was a nice MS64. At least this '16 was 1/3 the price. The show comes here in November, think i'll save up.

stujoe · August 15, 2003 12:13PM

Your new pictures shed a little more light but they seem to have artifacts in some (the green and red specs) that may make me undergrade it. I would say AU because it has a circ look to it but, again, that could be the artifacts. How's the lustre?

BTW: The angle of the original pic could hide darn near anything. I can make a dinged up MS look as smooth as a proof at that kind of angle with very litle trouble.

LincolnCentMan · August 15, 2003 12:13PM

Hey, there are bargans to be had in the raw coins. The 27-D might be AU58, see the wheat grains, but at what the hammer price was, I'm still ok. If it happens to be nicer, it's a pretty good little score. The thing is, you have to be extreamly selective of what you buy raw on e-bay. And as a general rule, if it's over $100, and it isnt in a slab... keep looking.

Shows are a blast. I'm going to do my best to get to one next weekend.

David

anoldgoat · August 15, 2003 12:37PM

The '16 does look nice on the obv be the reverse is another story. I tried to give the best pic of the rev and i did. There sure are signs of circulation but it won't show up in my pic.

On the flip in my auctions I try to show the true color of the coin but at the same time try to capture any flaws. That way there are no supprises(?).

On the side there was a light coat of oil on the coin.

This guy could make a living in giving lessons on picture taking.

legacycoin · August 15, 2003 1:02PM

AU55, maybe 58. Just doesn't look quite right for Unc.....

Grade a Lincoln

Comments

Leave a Comment