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Hey Russ, need a Kennedy fix?

MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
Got 4 Kennedy's in today. Two 1967 SMS CAMs, an Accent Hair, and a 1966 that is almost a no FG!
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It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>and a 1966 that is almost a no FG! >>



    I just got two of the weak FGs in. Damn, was hoping they'd be No FGs! Sure looked like it in the images.

    Russ, NCNE
  • I thought I heard that there was going to be a NO F as well.




    Anybody?????
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I thought I heard that there was going to be a NO F as well. >>



    Hadn't heard that, but it would be nice. One of mine has no F, and you really have to look just to see a whisper of a G.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • There is a no-F variety that seems a little tougher than the no-FG from my limited experience. I have both versions of the 82-P, and can provide the Breen #'s off the ANACS holders if anyone cares or needs them.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Andy,

    I'd be interested in the Breen #. You wouldn't also happen to have it for the '66?

    Russ, NCNE
  • Dang, I just knew they had the Breen # on the no-F, but as I checked, it was not listed on the holder. I don't have the Breen book handy, but am sure someone here does. Anyhow, the no-FG 82-P is listed as Breen-5323. I have it in 65, and the no-F in 64. Will try to update with some pics in a bit. The no-F does have a weak or faint G, obviously the no-FG is completely gone.
  • Nice score Marty - and good luck finding the real deal. The FS-13.9 has always been one of my favorite Kennedys - I'd love to find a true No FG still in it's mint packaging. There were 2 different reverse dies that produced "No F" coins with one eventually cranking out the "No FG" after considerable more wear, tear, and polishing. Looks like your coin is pretty sharp in detail yet - the feathers on the No FG are really smooth, flowing together with almost no detail/separation. Would be cool to put together a set of '66 Kennedys showing the progression from a sharp fully struck SMS coin down to the No FG.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Here's one of the ones that I just got in:

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    Oh so very close, yet so very far away!

    Russ, NCNE
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Russ,

    Look at the other diagnostics in Wiles book. If memory serves, the no FG has three or four reported die states, and the initials are completely abraded only in LDS. It may still be the real deal. I've got a no F 66 here on the desk in AU, and it's a different DMR. Maybe I can get a pick up later.
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Wow, that is sooooooo close!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • Breen doesnt list a no F variety, only FG.
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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    I believe this one is a DMR-4 (FS 13.9) stage C, but DMR-33 is a NO F, and has a slightly lower value. There is no Breen cross-reference for DMR-33.

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    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Don,

    According to the Diags, mine is a DMR-4, Stage D. Not quite there for full No FG (Stage E) status.

    Edited: Upon further inspection, mine isn't the DMR-4, it's the DMR-33. The bridge of the nose and a portion of the leg in the R of Liberty are abraded away.

    Russ, NCNE
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Mine still has the very faint F on it.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Just pulled out the other one I got in. It's a is a DMR-4, Stage D. Only a faint whisper of the F, but the G is pretty strong.

    Russ, NCNE
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Yep, I'm looking for the final stage as well, but I believe any of these would slab as 13.9. Just a thought.
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Don,

    Do you mean both DMR-4 and DMR-33?

    Russ, NCNE

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