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Mystery Colonial Coin: identify the auction lot.

Our contest is not nearly as challenging as CCU's pedigree contest. In fact, we even show the pedigree in the image. Our challenge to you is to identify the auction lot for the coin pictured below. Warning: this may not be as easy as you think.......



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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Bowers & Merena, 11/15/88 Lot 3447?
  • placid, lot 3447 was a silver farthing. The coin imaged above is a copper halfpenny. For you effort, we will buy you a drink at lunch...but no soup for you! image
  • foodudefoodude Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭
    B&M, Norweb Part III, Lot 3460

    (I thought I replied to this already, but I'm not sure it posted the first time???)
    Greg Allen Coins, LLC Show Schedule: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/573044/our-show-schedule-updated-10-2-16 Authorized dealer for NGC, PCGS, CAC, and QA. Member of PNG, RTT (Founding Platinum Member), FUN, MSNS, and NCBA (formerly ICTA); Life Member of ANA and CSNS. NCBA Board member. "GA3" on CCE.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    ms-64? RED???

    K S
  • B&M, Norweb Part III, Lot 3460

    Sorry fudude, that is not the lot.

    Here's a clue for everyone: note the large die break under the bust. Compare that to the images in the catalog.

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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    dude, is your digi-pic crappy, or is that coin cleaned & ugly?

    K S
  • foodudefoodude Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭
    B&M, Norweb Part III, Lot 3459 or Lot 3461; both were struck from the same die. It looks like it is the former because the pic in the catalog for the latter has a spot in the left field of the reverese (lower quadrant). I don't see that spot in your pic.

    Therefore, Lot 3459.
    Greg Allen Coins, LLC Show Schedule: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/573044/our-show-schedule-updated-10-2-16 Authorized dealer for NGC, PCGS, CAC, and QA. Member of PNG, RTT (Founding Platinum Member), FUN, MSNS, and NCBA (formerly ICTA); Life Member of ANA and CSNS. NCBA Board member. "GA3" on CCE.
  • fudude, good guesses....but no cigar. Note the progression of the die break on our coin (it is a later die state). Also, our coin has some die breaks on the reverse which do not show well in the scanned images.

    dude, is your digi-pic crappy, or is that coin cleaned & ugly?

    Dorkkarl, "yes" my images are crappy and "yes" that coin is cleaned and ugly. Although PCGS slabbed this coin as MS-64 RD, the coin is a cleaned AU. Rub and other evidence of circulation abounds. PCGS is so clueless about the grading of colonials that I can only imagine that they throw darts at a grading dart board when slabbing colonials.

    We have solicited the help of the resident forum expert on colonial coins, ColonialCoinUnion (singapore). I will post a new thread soon with some startling information. image

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