Is this guy a scammer, or am I missing something?

RiddlersApprentice · July 18, 2003 12:18PM

OK - so I'm just kind of starting out, and i'd like to get some great franklins, but this guy,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11973&item=3034673941
sorry, I'm not sure how the linky thing works

I don't know. I was looking at the auctions, and nobody bidding on them, wondering if the prices are too high or what.

The one pictured sure doesn't look that great to me compared to alot I've seen here. Also the "lazer" thing is kind of suspect. It screams "moron" to me. Do you guys trust coins in these slabs? Is this guy over hyping an average coin trying to get a really high price?

guess I'll keep looking.

kamehameha00 · July 18, 2003 12:22PM

Link

airplanenut · July 18, 2003 12:23PM

linky

airplanenut · July 18, 2003 12:24PM

No scam, gold PCI is just awful and overgrades... consider them ACG Jr.

RiddlersApprentice · July 18, 2003 12:24PM

How'd you do that?

Thanks for the help.

kamehameha00 · July 18, 2003 12:24PM

haha beat you to the linky doody dandy!just noticed i made 200 posts and became a senior member YAY!

jonesy · July 18, 2003 12:25PM

Hands up for RiddlersApprentice!!
Linky

lordmarcovan · July 18, 2003 12:26PM

LINK

Hahaha. No shortage of links, now.

So he can't spell "laser", and the coin is in a PCI gold-label slab, with about as much "Deep Cameo" contrast as one would expect of an NTC or ACG coin. Still, it might have more contrast than the pic shows, though I guarantee you it wouldn't make DCAM at a respectable service. I don't think it's a "scam" so much as an overhyped coin (both by the seller and the grading service).

At least he didn't quote the PCGS priceguide.

DanC · July 18, 2003 12:26PM

Riddlers -

Just click the http button with the little link symbol, and paste in your URL. That's the ticket.

jonesy · July 18, 2003 12:27PM

Wow!! I must be sicker than I thought. Five post before I could link!!

kamehameha00 · July 18, 2003 12:29PM

You were already sick don't worry

jk

RiddlersApprentice · July 18, 2003 12:31PM

Thanks guys. I think I've got it now.

I was looking at this sellers feedback. I don't know - even with the 900+, something smells. Seems like some people are pretty mad.

I think I'll take my money and move on.

So those gold label ones are garbage? Wonder why he makes it sound like it's perfect in every way?
I'd have to think someone with that much experience would be more informed.

Dog97 · July 18, 2003 12:32PM

Is that the Lone Ranger variety? I swear it looks like Franklin is wearing Lone Ranger mask. Is a Deep Cameo sposed to look like that?

Russ · July 18, 2003 12:33PM

<< <i>At least he didn't quote the PCGS priceguide. >>

I knew something was missing from that auction.

Russ, NCNE

littlewicher · July 18, 2003 12:42PM

I've bought from the seller before. I remember that it was a smooth deal and nothing wrong and good communication, that was a while ago, though. I know he actively pursues 1950-1970 proof coins, especially in CAM and DCAM.

LucyBop · July 18, 2003 1:44PM

I sure don't trust PCI, everything I have seen so far has been bad news.......

coiNuts · July 18, 2003 1:53PM

I'd like my 23cents in here, to say that RiddlersApprentice (if that is his real name

) is doing very well to start here in this forum asking questions............from what I have seen here (I have been a wholesale dealer for about 15 years) this group has pretty much got it figured out...........

RiddlersApprentice · July 18, 2003 2:04PM

coiNuts, your parents must have had one heck of a sense of humor.

Of course that's not my real name. I thought everyone prettymuch used handles around here.
My last name is Ridley, and my friends call me Riddler. I figured I was a beginner, so Apprentice might be a good add-on.

Anyway, I figured finding out from experts would be a good way to start so I didn't get hosed by some slicky-boy.

GAT · July 18, 2003 3:26PM

Run away as fast as you can from that coin. PCi is bad news anytime. The old green slabs have a big insert PVC problem. The new gold slabs are trash.

RiddlersApprentice · July 18, 2003 3:52PM

OK so you're saying AGC and PCI is trash. I made a note of that.

How bout NGC? This 53 FBL by the same seller looks like half the lines are missing from the bell!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11973&item=3035600495

See how I figgered out the linky?

doops · July 18, 2003 5:34PM

what's your take on it dchump ?
you seem to have all the answers

coiNuts · July 18, 2003 5:49PM

Well..........coiNuts IS my real name........................hardee harr harr.............

cointagious · July 18, 2003 9:23PM

ngc is an excellent and respected grading service. ngc and the host company of this forum, pcgs, are the two premier grading services of coins. on that particular coin series, ngc is stricter on full bell lines than pcgs. it is, however, still about the coin and not the holder.

Is this guy a scammer, or am I missing something?

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