What is the value of a 1963 Frankie, NGC PR-67 Ucam?

jadecoin · July 11, 2003 3:10AM

Thanks.

greghansen · July 11, 2003 3:21AM

Retail about $75.

NumisEd · July 11, 2003 3:22AM

It's hard to spend in the slab, but if you crack it out it's worth 50 cents.

291fifth · July 11, 2003 3:36AM

Whatever the market will bear. That all any coin is really worth.

dorkkarl · July 11, 2003 3:39AM

dollar-fifty, which is about 3 times face

(lucy just might disagree...)

K S

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 4:04AM

Hey Greg, I'll take all you want to sell for $75/each.

Jade- If you want to sell them on Ebay, then I would sell the coin for $110 to $145, depending upon the quality of contrast/level of frost. Shops with Cameo clientele will get $175. Or you can just sell it to me for Greg's price of $75.

Russ · July 11, 2003 4:08AM

jadecoin,

Greg gave you accurate information. You may safely ignore anything else.

Russ, NCNE

NumisEd · July 11, 2003 4:09AM

Hey Russ:

NumisEd · July 11, 2003 4:17AM

jadecoin....puuuuleeeze tell me that you are NOT buying UCAM modern proofs now! Ich!

littlewicher · July 11, 2003 4:29AM

I could've bought a 1963 PCGS PR67 DCAM not too long ago for only $50. I wasn't fast enough to get it.

Russ · July 11, 2003 4:31AM

<< jadecoin....puuuuleeeze tell me that you are NOT buying UCAM modern proofs now! Ich! >>

Eddie,

He's selling one on consignment to help somebody out.

Russ, NCNE

LucyBop · July 11, 2003 4:32AM

<< could've bought a 1963 PCGS PR67 DCAM not too long ago for only $50. >>

that would have been a heck of a bargain!!!!

littlewicher · July 11, 2003 4:46AM

I know. Alhender was offering it here a couple weeks ago. I wanted it so bad, but I wasn't fast enough. Oh well. I got a good deal on a '96 W dime off him, though.

jadecoin · July 11, 2003 5:37AM

Gentleman and Lady, thank you for the information. As Russ astutely pointed out, this is not my coin, but is consigned to me, along with a couple others. (I know next to nothing about high-grade modern coins like this.) The consignor needs X dollars by a certain date, and so wanted some kind of estimate to see where he stands. I will print this out and forward to him.

On behalf of the consignor, a sincere "thank you" to all. I knew this was the right place to go for good information!

greghansen · July 11, 2003 5:39AM

I'll take all you want to sell for $75/each.

Sorry, I don't have any to sell. Hope you got a chance to bid on these:

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #1

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #2

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #3

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #4

Russ · July 11, 2003 5:43AM

<< I'll take all you want to sell for $75/each.

Sorry, I don't have any to sell. Hope you got a chance to bid on these:

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #1

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #2

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #3

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #4 >>

Ouch! That must have hurt.

Russ, NCNE

jadecoin · July 11, 2003 5:51AM

Uh Oh! Looks like I'd better include the TeleTrade data as well! Of course, I think you have to add on 9% plus S&H, right? Still, I think the consignor was hoping for more than that!

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 6:18AM

Greg- TeleTrash?? Are you kidding me? Not even once. Sorry. Were the coins yours? Or were you just pointing them out?

Russ · July 11, 2003 6:39AM

<< Still, I think the consignor was hoping for more than that! >>

Jadecoin,

You might get more than that. All it takes is two ignorant bidders who think they're worth $110 to $145.

Russ, NCNE

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 7:10AM

<< You might get more than that. All it takes is two ignorant bidders who think they're worth $110 to $145. >>

Well, since the NGC Pop for the 1962 PF-67 UCAM is about 50% greater than that of the 1963, I guess your VERY BEST buddy, PEPPERDOODLES, doops, must be a really "ignorant"(your word Russ, not mine) seller to ask an initial bid of $169, with a BIN of $195! Right??

Pepperdoodles UCAM

Response, "Ugghh, well ugghh not exactly ignorant. What I meant to say was............"

Or perhaps this seller is completely ignorant.

1962 UCAM

Remember everybody. The NGC Pop for the 1962 is about 50% greater than that for the 1963. So, the 1963 UCAMs should bring even higher prices.

Jadecoin- Keep taking Russ' pricing advice and your friend won't want to use your consignment services any longer.

Excuse me Russ. Just how many DCAM/UCAM Franklins have you sold on Ebay?.......What's that I couldn't hear you.

Russ · July 11, 2003 7:16AM

<< Well, since the NGC Pop for the 1962 PF-67 UCAM is about 50% greater than that of the 1963, I guess your VERY BEST buddy, PEPPERDOODLES, doops, must be a really "ignorant"(your word Russ, not mine) seller to ask an initial bid of $169, with a BIN of $195! Right??

Pepperdoodles UCAM

Response, "Ugghh, well ugghh not exactly ignorant. What I meant to say was............"

Or perhaps this seller is completely ignorant.

1962 UCAM

Remember everybody. The NGC Pop for the 1962 is about 50% greater than that for the 1963. So, the 1963 UCAMs should bring even higher prices. >>

Well, golly gee, DCAMFranklin, I guess you got me. Oh wait! Neither one of those coins has sold. I'll be damned, they don't even have any bids.

Do you enjoy looking stupid? That's it, isn't it? You're a masochist and your dom is currently out of town.

Russ, NCNE

NumisEd · July 11, 2003 7:19AM

I don't like looking stupid. In fact I hate it!

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 7:24AM

<< You're a masochist and your dom is currently out of town. >>

<< Russ, NCNE >>

Anyone ever notice that when the ignorant run out of facts and logical argument, they lower themselves to calling names and demeaning others?

Russ · July 11, 2003 7:31AM

<< they lower themselves to calling names and demeaning others? >>

Ever notice that you're the only one I go after, DCAMFranklin? Yep, that's right. I reserve it only for cowardly little toadies with stones the size of mustard seeds who hide behind their keyboard and take pot shots as a lame attempt at retribution for all the time they spent with their head in the toilet back in school.

Russ, NCNE

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 7:31AM

<< 

<< You might get more than that. All it takes is two ignorant bidders who think they're worth $110 to $145. >>

Well, since the NGC Pop for the 1962 PF-67 UCAM is about 50% greater than that of the 1963, I guess your VERY BEST buddy, PEPPERDOODLES, doops, must be a really "ignorant"(your word Russ, not mine) seller to ask an initial bid of $169, with a BIN of $195! Right??

Pepperdoodles UCAM

Response, "Ugghh, well ugghh not exactly ignorant. What I meant to say was............"

Or perhaps this seller is completely ignorant.

1962 UCAM

Remember everybody. The NGC Pop for the 1962 is about 50% greater than that for the 1963. So, the 1963 UCAMs should bring even higher prices.

Jadecoin- Keep taking Russ' pricing advice and your friend won't want to use your consignment services any longer.

Excuse me Russ. Just how many DCAM/UCAM Franklins have you sold on Ebay?.......What's that I couldn't hear you.

>>

Yes Russ, both auctions are still running without an initial bid. However, both auctions have an initial bid significantly greater than $110 and are for coins with an NGC Pop 50% greater than that of the 1963.

Excuse me Russ. Just how many DCAM/UCAM Franklin have you bought or sold on Ebay?.....Whats that?? I couldn't hear you.

jeffnpcb · July 11, 2003 7:46AM

DCAM, Show your profile and activate your PM!!! I'd like to see it myself, and remove that gold and post a DCAM Franklin in it's place!

Reverse is doubled in E PLURIBUS UNUM and Lightly in USA! Going back to PCGS for review next week!

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 7:48AM

<< 

<< they lower themselves to calling names and demeaning others? >>

Ever notice that you're the only one I go after, DCAMFranklin? Yep, that's right. I reserve it only for cowardly little toadies with stones the size of mustard seeds who hide behind their keyboard and take pot shots as a lame attempt at retribution for all the time they spent with their head in the toilet back in school.

Russ, NCNE >>

No, what I think we have here it the skinny little dweeb, with the pocket protector and a sliderule hanging from his belt, that was always handing around the lunchroom with his nose smacked in because the big guys took his lunch money. Day after day. Now little Russ comes here, hiding behind his keyboard, to verbally assault those who shrink from the attack. Problem is, DCAMFranklin didn't withdraw. CoinToast didn't withdraw either, until you posted his personal information......ugghh that's for another day.

Why don't you just stick to coins and let the personal attacks, name calling and bashing come to an end? Your shoddy image has taken enough for this week.

NumisEd · July 11, 2003 7:53AM

Ever notice that you're the only one I go after, DCAMFranklin?

What about me, Russ? You constantly terrorize my posts.

Russ · July 11, 2003 7:53AM

Unlike you, DCAMFranklin I don't hide from anything. Everybody knows exactly who I am, where I live, the name under which I do business. You, OTOH, don't even have the balls to turn on your PM. You have zero credibility at this forum, and everybody knows it.

Come on, toadie, grow some stones and come out of hiding. Stand up like a man while you talk your trash.

Russ, NCNE

Russ · July 11, 2003 7:56AM

<< Ever notice that you're the only one I go after, DCAMFranklin?

What about me, Russ? You constantly terrorize my posts. >>

Now, now, Eddie, be careful. DCAMFranklin is stupid enough that he might actually believe that.

Russ, NCNE

jeffnpcb · July 11, 2003 8:02AM

Those two UCAMS may pull a 65 or a 66, if lucky at PCGS!!

doops · July 11, 2003 8:20AM

<< I'll take all you want to sell for $75/each.

Sorry, I don't have any to sell. Hope you got a chance to bid on these:

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #1

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #2

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #3

1963 NGC PR67 UCAM Auction #4 >>

heh, thank ya'll or whoever always buys our twice weekly spotted,specked,gifts, rejects,etc that are our makes we run through teletrade buy the bushel for 15 yrs. but yes, a deal or 2 can be had on there, we bought em ourselves, but it's generally a junkyard for cameos and higher grade proofs 36-70 with problems.
however, most all the cams 50-70 in each auction are ours that we would not dare sell direct because they have something not right about all of them that keeps them out of the good to better to premium quality. wake up people, buy quality, buy clean,strong cams, dont buy a stupid low price because i tell ya we're happy to get whatever we get on that common stuff that just "aint quite right"
we sell premium coins for the market we make for the most part directly to long standing customers for what they are worth based on contrast and appeal. and some on jokebay that are personal sales...
teletrade in NOT EVEN CLOSE to being a "guide" for the cameo market. but buy em if you want to.

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 8:58AM

<< DCAM, Show your profile and activate your PM!!! I'd like to see it myself, and remove that gold and post a DCAM Franklin in it's place! >>

Jeff- Do I come at you and demand that you take down your icon of your 3 lovely children? Hardly. As the for the profile, well that isn't going to happen either. CoinToast had his profile open and when he got argumentative, his personal information was suddenly posted to a Member's website. Then his little girl picked up the phone to an obscene phone call. Now, I don't have a daughter, but I wouldn't want that kind of thing to happen to any of my sons. When things got out of hand, then Carol had to kill the thread. So, I think I'll just keep it the way it is.

NumisEd · July 11, 2003 9:39AM

heh, thank ya'll or whoever always buys our twice weekly spotted,specked,gifts, rejects,etc that are our makes we run through teletrade buy the bushel for 15 yrs. but yes, a deal.......

Doops very well said. Bravo!! Actually, I found your post to the UCAM/NGC thread last week to be quite brilliant. I will post it again, in part, for those who missed it:

heh, I can see that you nothin' but a trash talkin' chimp wantin to be a pimp if you know how I go, so the UCAM part is nothin but a scam wanting to go do sum buffalo wild wings and if you don't get it then I can drop you like a sack of patatoes on a winter night. heh, that aint all check out the NGC star designashun thing thats what bothers me buncha chumps aint gonna go on e-trash-bay and get scammed like blood suckin' turnip with a blind fold on heh heh y'all can stay on jokebay if y'all want but I aint as dumb as i look, heh chump with a 1963 udcam on a hot tin roof...

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 9:48AM

Hey Ed (NOT Eddie)- Too funny!!

Did he really write that crap??

DCAMFranklin · July 11, 2003 5:37PM

<< 

<< 

<< You might get more than that. All it takes is two ignorant bidders who think they're worth $110 to $145. >>

Well, since the NGC Pop for the 1962 PF-67 UCAM is about 50% greater than that of the 1963, I guess your VERY BEST buddy, PEPPERDOODLES, doops, must be a really "ignorant"(your word Russ, not mine) seller to ask an initial bid of $169, with a BIN of $195! Right??

Pepperdoodles UCAM

Response, "Ugghh, well ugghh not exactly ignorant. What I meant to say was............"

Or perhaps this seller is completely ignorant.

1962 UCAM

Remember everybody. The NGC Pop for the 1962 is about 50% greater than that for the 1963. So, the 1963 UCAMs should bring even higher prices.

Jadecoin- Keep taking Russ' pricing advice and your friend won't want to use your consignment services any longer.

Excuse me Russ. Just how many DCAM/UCAM Franklins have you sold on Ebay?.......What's that I couldn't hear you.

>>

Yes Russ, both auctions are still running without an initial bid. However, both auctions have an initial bid significantly greater than $110 and are for coins with an NGC Pop 50% greater than that of the 1963.

Excuse me Russ. Just how many DCAM/UCAM Franklin have you bought or sold on Ebay?.....Whats that?? I couldn't hear you. >>

Still waiting........

IrishMike · July 11, 2003 9:51PM

Jadecoin after having read the posts to your thread, you must be sorry you asked the question. I can relate to you what my experiences have been. In 2000 I purchased several UC Franklins, not only from Teletrade but other sources to resell on Ebay because I thought they were undervalued on these venues and they were. In fact the current high bidder bumperone bid on several of my auctions. Given my experience this coin could easily sell for over $100 or more. I would also offer to anyone if you have any UC NGC Franklins for sale at $75 I would gladly purchase them. My money goes where my mouth is.

I am no expert in this area I like UC Frankies, as my paternal grandmother insisted that Ben was a distant relative but no one in my family has ever taken the time to research this. All I know is the woman was incapable of ever telling a lie. My experience has been that the two grading companies grade Franklins on par with each other with a slight nod to NGC on the cameo designation. But what do I know I have only been collection them since the 50's.

Good luck on your sell and threads that deteriorate like this one has, i.e. name calling and misinformation is why I find myself rarely posting here any more. Some of us need to do a gut check and hit the delete button more often.

DCAMFranklin · July 12, 2003 10:22AM

<< Given my experience this coin could easily sell for over $100 or more. I would also offer to anyone if you have any UC NGC Franklins for sale at $75 I would gladly purchase them. My money goes where my mouth is. >>

IrishMike- Well, we often disagree, however, it is obvious we are in absolute agreement about the value of this coin. I'm with you. I will gladly purchase any quality PF-67 UCAM Franklins for $75. The coin in question is clearly worth in excess of $75. The only evidence to the contrary are a group of 4 spotted, weak contrast, coins offered by Pepperdoodles on TeleTrash. Hardly comparable to a quality coin. Pfffff...

MadMarty · July 12, 2003 11:27AM

<< I reserve it only for cowardly little toadies with stones the size of mustard seeds >>

Note to self: Don't piss off Russ!

DCAMFranklin · July 13, 2003 3:31PM

<< 

<< 

<< they lower themselves to calling names and demeaning others? >>

Ever notice that you're the only one I go after, DCAMFranklin? Yep, that's right. I reserve it only for cowardly little toadies with stones the size of mustard seeds who hide behind their keyboard and take pot shots as a lame attempt at retribution for all the time they spent with their head in the toilet back in school.

Russ, NCNE >>

No, what I think we have here it the skinny little dweeb, with the pocket protector and a sliderule hanging from his belt, that was always handing around the lunchroom with his nose smacked in because the big guys took his lunch money. Day after day. Now little Russ comes here, hiding behind his keyboard, to verbally assault those who shrink from the attack. Problem is, DCAMFranklin didn't withdraw. CoinToast didn't withdraw either, until you posted his personal information......ugghh that's for another day.

Why don't you just stick to coins and let the personal attacks, name calling and bashing come to an end? Your shoddy image has taken enough for this week.

>>

Really did a lot for your image on this Forum this weekend, didn't you Russ?

dorkkarl · July 13, 2003 9:58PM

bwuahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

what else can you really say? & all over a piece of pocket change!

K S

LucyBop · July 13, 2003 10:38PM

<< what else can you really say? & all over a piece of pocket change! >>

BANN'D!

jadecoin · July 17, 2003 12:17AM

Interesting, uh, controversy, guys!

Thanks for all the input.

NumisEd · July 17, 2003 5:24AM

The coin in question is clearly worth in excess of $75.

Uh, I hate to break the bad news to you, but the coin in question is only at $75 and the auction is almost over. After the sleezebay fees, this coin is obviously worth less than $75. What did it cost to get that slug slabbed?? I personally think that coin is worth $25 and nothing more. Dealers have to charge an extra $50 because of the slab fees and the shipping to an from the slab companies. DCAM Franklins are a bad investment...inside or outside of a slab, imho.

What is the value of a 1963 Frankie, NGC PR-67 Ucam?

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