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Super-Pretty Toner Cent with an Awesome Ragged Clip (great example of the blakesley effect)

airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
Who says Russ is the only one who can find the awesomely toned cents? image

I picked this one up for its great color, and the clip was also just so cool. (By the way, how would you grade it?)

Enjoy!

Full obverse:
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The Clip on the Obverse
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The Obverse Blakesley effect... check out the super-weak rim!
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The reverse
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The reverse showing more color
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The Clip on the Reverse side
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The Clip as seen on the rim
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Jeremy

PS- If I were to sell, should I slab it as an error, or just sell it raw?
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  • LouisLouis Posts: 3,687
    Sell it raw, flaws and all.image
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  • Airplanenut, the photos are superb, thanks for letting me share in your enjoyment of a rarity I would otherwise be unable to experience.
    That humanity at large will ever be able to dispense with artificial paradises seems unlikely. Most men and women lead lives at the worst so painful, and at the best so monotonous, poor, and limited, that the urge to escape, the longing to transcend themselves, if only for a few moments, is and always has been one of the principal appetites of the soul.

    Aldous Huxley

    Yabba dabba doo.

    Fred Flintstone

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,349 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Airplanenut, the photos are superb, thanks for letting me share in your enjoyment of a rarity I would otherwise be unable to experience. >>

    Thanks for the compliment. I just got a new 75W light, and instead of using a Reveal bulb for toning, I decided to use white light... I can't believe the color came out so well... since I cleaned off my desk, more lighting angles are available. Now I'll need to get out some more copper to see how it shoots.

    Jeremy
    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice job on the photos!

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • Okay, I can hide my ignorance only so long. Please explain to me the Blakesly effect.

    BTW MS 64.
    That humanity at large will ever be able to dispense with artificial paradises seems unlikely. Most men and women lead lives at the worst so painful, and at the best so monotonous, poor, and limited, that the urge to escape, the longing to transcend themselves, if only for a few moments, is and always has been one of the principal appetites of the soul.

    Aldous Huxley

    Yabba dabba doo.

    Fred Flintstone

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    (my 6000th post image)

    The effect is simple, really. Wherever a planchet is clipped, the die pressure is low because there is nothing for the dies to hit. As a result, 180* away from the clip (ie across from it) there is also less pressure to strike the coin, which will result in a soft strike opposite the clip. Notice how the rim across from the clip is kind of mushed up- that's the effect.

    The effect's significance is in determining a genuine or fake clip. Only a real clip will show the weakness, so if you know what to look for, you won't be caught with an "error" made with some scissors.

    Jeremy
    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • Jeremy, if that is indeed the case (and I have no reason to think otherwise) , I thank you for the edification. Again , I applaud your enthusiasm for the hobby and stand in awe of your ability to educate.
    That humanity at large will ever be able to dispense with artificial paradises seems unlikely. Most men and women lead lives at the worst so painful, and at the best so monotonous, poor, and limited, that the urge to escape, the longing to transcend themselves, if only for a few moments, is and always has been one of the principal appetites of the soul.

    Aldous Huxley

    Yabba dabba doo.

    Fred Flintstone

  • KlectorKidKlectorKid Posts: 3,723
    Nice photos, I have never been able to get copper down... same with silver, but im okay at gold. Anyways really cool error and great pics.
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  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    Nice photos. Did you happen to see this one on ebay. It also has a double clip with Blakesly effect.Link
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Cool coin and great pics Jeremy.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boz- While at the ANA Summer Seminar, I went to the local shop, Hallenbeck's, twice... the second time, I paid attention to their case of cents, and this caught my eye because of the color- I looked at it and fell in love image

    Jeremy
    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • supercoinsupercoin Posts: 2,323
    Cool coin!

    However, the Blakesely effect is not because of the striking... if anything a well-struck coin can obscure the Blakesley effect.

    Before coins are struck, they are up through a mill which upsets (raises) the rim to aid in striking.

    When a coin has a clip, there is nothing for the mill to push on at the clipped area, which causes the area 180 degrees opposite of the clip to not be upset (raised). Hence on the resulting coin that area is lower.

    With a very well-struck coin, the effect can be obscured because the metal flows into the rim area anyway.
  • supercoinsupercoin Posts: 2,323
    I found this page that shows a coin blank after being run through the upset mill that might be helpful in understanding...

    Coin minting process info
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,349 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Jeremy nice pictures and a nice coin. For this photo did you use angled light or directly on the coin? >>

    The light is angled... I think it was about 45* to the coin... these shots were just one light, as opposed to some shots having used two lights.

    Jeremy
    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a very pretty error cent. (And thanks to the previous poster who saved me the time of explaining the Blakesley effect).

    To reply to just the last bit of your original post - when and if you sell it, you should play up both the beautiful color and the error. There are folks out there who will only care about the toming, and there are others who will only care about the error. If you're lucky, you'll find some unhinged individual who will appreciate both the condition and the error as a package. I know such a collector exists, I see one every morning in the mirror when I'm shaving image


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor

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