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in coin world benchmark has the ms68 pcgs trade 1878s POR

michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
also they have for sale the 1871 star ms 69 halfdime

but also a POR why no prices??

i would love to see the 1878 s trade in pcgs ms68 i take it it is a newly gradeed coin?

sincerely michael

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    wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    Michael:
    My philosophy on POR advertising is simple:

    -Either have the balls to list the price, even if it is a very , very rare coin,
    or if you are worried about low offers, then put it up for auction through Bowers or Heritage, or someone big, where it will get the publicity and heavy bidding. POR listing is very annoying. I don't care whether its a rare coin or a $10 coin, list the price or put it up for auction. POR to me is a joke.
    Just my opinion.

    Brian.
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    PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    They don't want to turn you off before they can at least get a way to contact you so they can call you once a week and try to sell you something image
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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    I often wondered what percentage of these coins had been submitted. Would a few more previously unseen high-grade coins radically alter the pricing for the existing examples?
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tradedollarnut has already mentioned that this same 78-s has been around for a while and appears on the pops as a 67 at each service

    I've always felt that POR may indicate that the seller is just not sure how much he can get for the coin. It comes down to what the top buyers are willing to shell out. They'd much rather have those individuals call where they can feel them out individually and see what kind of "offer" falls out. Once they list a price they can't go higher. A listed price might also let their competition know what kind of price range they were buying in. It might mean another dealer offering coins to them at a higher level because of info they
    divulged. Very few people in the market have a clue as to what the Knoxville coins are truly worth.......or what they can be sold for.
    Why should BV educate them? If someone is truly interested in the high grade before the high price, they will call on them any ways.

    Personally I don't condone the POR listings. A selling dealer should be able to identify the price they want for the coin and then list it.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
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    ZerbeZerbe Posts: 587 ✭✭
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    MS68



    Michael, Tradedollarnut has said in another thread that it is the Knoxville Specimen and that it did just upgrade from MS 67.

    As far as POR, they have always done that with certain coins, ( which I hate ). There was a period of about a months time that they did not post a single price on ANY OF THEIR COINS !!

    The Reason, I assume, is because I posted actual prices on specific coins with the cert numbers on this forum, and compared them to the same identical coins at two other websites. The two other websites advertised the coins at THOUSANDS LESS than Benchmark.

    These are the same coins, (same cert # ). The reason I did the comparison was because Benchmark, through spam and large Coinworld ads was claiming to cut out the middleman and would save coin collectors a lot of money. Benchmark claimed to be the a major seller of rare coins to most dealers.

    It took me about five minutes to do the comprarisons from the three websites, and I just picked three coins at ramdom. One coin was advertised at Benchmark for $145,000, but at another website, the same coin, ( same cert. # ) was only $135,000. I asked Benchmark how they were saving me money, if I bought the $145,000 coin for $10,000 more than at another website, but they never replied.image

    It was immediately after I posted the comparisons on this forum, that all prices on Benchmark Ventures' website were removed, for, at least a month.

    Their main advertising gimmick, cutting out the middleman, which they advertised extensively, went up in smoke that day. If they were caught so easily at this deception, you can only imagine what else is smoke and mirrors at this West Coast Dealer.

    What is the " Benchmark " of Honesty ???
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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    Someone said awhile ago that some of these top coins being advertised are NOT even in possession of the company selling them - that is how some companies can list millions in inventory but do not actually have the coins (I think benchmark was included in this group)

    The reason a price on request is quoted is because the coin may not be available when someone requests the price



    Is this ethical? to be listing a coin and trying to sell it for Collector A or Dealer B and implying that it is yours? I am not sure - put it happens frequently


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    FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
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    Matt
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    michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    wow thanks to all you ALL!!!!!!

    guys thanks for the great information

    i learned lots and i never realized as such

    i got quite and education ................................ and a special thanks to zerbe

    I GUESS i am still a little neive as lots of what i read on here was a real eye opener to me

    i think that i will be reading much less and taking nothing at face value of the ads in coin world as i think i am being played more than i am learning something constructive about the coins available and prices as such

    sincerely michael
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    michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    well now i am going to read the ads as something that makes you go


    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    and leave it at that and think no more of it

    a total waste of time

    sincerely michael

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    Sounds like your degree is in marketing Mr. Flacid..oops I mean Placid
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    WoW I have not been at this as long as most of you....So remember.
    Some people watch things happend
    some people MAKE things happend
    and most of you are left wondering what the hell just happend
    Wake up!

    Sin,
    just use the few brain cells still working and figure it out for your self....
    So easily lead
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    SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭✭
    DNF,

    Welcome to the boards. What's your story?


    Seth
    Collecting since 1976.
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    jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178


    << <i>just use the few brain cells still working and figure it out for your self >>



    I guess you used yours for something other than English class image
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    I dont' know you didn't have any prob reading it.....Did You? image

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