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Question about wheel marks and grading

Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

I know some of coin submissions come back as detail graded coins due to "wheel marks".
What are they and how do they occur?
Is it PMD or is it possible they occur during the minting and accumulation of the coins.
I have often thought that rather than calling a coin "detail roller marks" that they could be taken into consideration of a coins grade.
Most of the time we are hard pressed to even find them.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy a nice looking coin "details roller mark or marks" especially if it was not obvious.
Do you have an example you could show of a wheel mark?

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wheel marks come from the counting machines used after the coins leave the mint, always PMD. Read and learn.

    https://ngccoin.com/news/article/4412/Wheel-Marks/

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2026 12:56PM

    @coinbuf said:
    Wheel marks come from the counting machines used after the coins leave the mint, always PMD. Read and learn.

    https://ngccoin.com/news/article/4412/Wheel-Marks/

    Thank you!
    Definetly learned something today!

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    EK1EK1 Posts: 23 ✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    Wheel marks come from the counting machines used after the coins leave the mint, always PMD. Read and learn.

    https://ngccoin.com/news/article/4412/Wheel-Marks/

    Thank you very much for sharing this

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EK1 said:

    @coinbuf said:
    Wheel marks come from the counting machines used after the coins leave the mint, always PMD. Read and learn.

    https://ngccoin.com/news/article/4412/Wheel-Marks/

    Thank you very much for sharing this

    This is why I post these kinds of questions. Not only do I learn but we can all learn.
    I have seen many coins at local shows with wheel mark details holders that you really have to search for the flaw.

    Does anybody have an example they can post?

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan13 & @EK1 glad you found the article helpful. @morgan13 pictures are seldom useful for this, to find wheel marks you have to tilt and rotate the coin into a single light source. wheel marks are very easy to miss until you have seen them a few times.

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