The items are relisted by seller 8ten1944 a few weeks after the confiscation.
Maybe he's also selling all of the pens they confiscated from us! Lol.
I appreciate your humor, but the washing of the transaction into the system and then the item reappearing in the same venue is shady, at least. So essentially, no one should care because everyone feeds from the same trough.
What’s shady about it?
Let me simplify , as I read it.
Example : you buy coin from me. I send it to you overseas. It gets intercepted and confiscated. ebay gives you your money back and gives me my money back. That’s not shady at all. The fact that a third person now has it listed for sale on ebay seems a bit shady to me.
I don't understand that comment.
The seller didn't get their money "back". They simply got to keep the proceeds from the sale.
As for someone selling the coins on ebay, what else should happen? Should ebay destroy the stuff they can't send overseas?
Quite frankly, I'm surprised scammers haven't caught on to this opportunity. A buyer and seller could artificially inflate the price of something that ebay will buy back, knowing that ebay will pay out whatever the purchase price was.
What I don't understand as an Ebay seller (and buyer) is why Ebay lets the transaction even get started. They know they are going to confiscate Russian items that are going through the International hub. They know the address of buyer and seller. They know the item is Russian. Why not stop it at the source, i.e. block the sale in the first place. It is a simple code change. It would be a lot less messy, and the buyer and seller would be a lot less frustrated...
The items are relisted by seller 8ten1944 a few weeks after the confiscation.
Maybe he's also selling all of the pens they confiscated from us! Lol.
I appreciate your humor, but the washing of the transaction into the system and then the item reappearing in the same venue is shady, at least. So essentially, no one should care because everyone feeds from the same trough.
What’s shady about it?
Let me simplify , as I read it.
Example : you buy coin from me. I send it to you overseas. It gets intercepted and confiscated. ebay gives you your money back and gives me my money back. That’s not shady at all. The fact that a third person now has it listed for sale on ebay seems a bit shady to me.
I don't understand that comment.
The seller didn't get their money "back". They simply got to keep the proceeds from the sale.
As for someone selling the coins on ebay, what else should happen? Should ebay destroy the stuff they can't send overseas?
Quite frankly, I'm surprised scammers haven't caught on to this opportunity. A buyer and seller could artificially inflate the price of something that ebay will buy back, knowing that ebay will pay out whatever the purchase price was.
Read between the lines. The seller was refunded his money ( got his money from the sale back). Is comprehension so tough ? And why should a 3rd party then be allowed to sell the item ? Why not return it to the original seller ? Guess I was raised different. It isn’t another person’s item to sell.
What I don't understand is why people are making a fuss over a situation without knowing the details of what happened. And unless you work for eBay at their international shipping hub, you'll probably never know. Bottom line: The seller keeps the money he was paid and the buyer is refunded for the uncompleted sale. Who's been harmed?
If you can identify a predictable policy, then this could be quite useful to someone willing to game the system but would work to eBay's detriment. Someone could arrange a pen pal in a foreign country to "buy" coins at strong money knowing that eBay would be stuck with the coins.
I'm not advocating for this at all, I just find eBay's policy strange.
@MasonG said:
What I don't understand is why people are making a fuss over a situation without knowing the details of what happened. And unless you work for eBay at their international shipping hub, you'll probably never know. Bottom line: The seller keeps the money he was paid and the buyer is refunded for the uncompleted sale. Who's been harmed?
The original
Buyer who didn’t give a hoot about money and wanted the item in the first place ? Maybe that hurt and maybe it didn’t. And maybe you don’t have reasoning ability.
@MasonG said:
What I don't understand is why people are making a fuss over a situation without knowing the details of what happened. And unless you work for eBay at their international shipping hub, you'll probably never know. Bottom line: The seller keeps the money he was paid and the buyer is refunded for the uncompleted sale. Who's been harmed?
The original
Buyer who didn’t give a hoot about money and wanted the item in the first place ? Maybe that hurt and maybe it didn’t. And maybe you don’t have reasoning ability.
His reasoning is absolutely fine and the same goes for @JBK, whom you also insulted.
The eBay policy doesn’t make a lot of sense to many of us, but there’s nothing shady about it. eBay probably has more losses than profits on the resales of affected items and they’re not doing anything underhanded.
But I guess those of us who disagree with you must not have good comprehension or reasoning ability.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MasonG said:
What I don't understand is why people are making a fuss over a situation without knowing the details of what happened. And unless you work for eBay at their international shipping hub, you'll probably never know. Bottom line: The seller keeps the money he was paid and the buyer is refunded for the uncompleted sale. Who's been harmed?
The original
Buyer who didn’t give a hoot about money and wanted the item in the first place ? Maybe that hurt and maybe it didn’t. And maybe you don’t have reasoning ability.
His reasoning is absolutely fine and the same goes for @JBK, whom you also insulted.
The eBay policy doesn’t make a lot of sense to many of us, but there’s nothing shady about it. eBay probably has more losses than profits on the resales of affected items and they’re not doing anything underhanded.
But I guess those of us who disagree with you must not have good comprehension or reasoning ability.
Hi JBK. Sorry if you felt insulted by my question on comprehension. Anyway, that’s how Feld felt. Maybe you guys are whispering back and forth through PMs. I’m sorry if anyone might be emotionally or otherwise insulted or traumatized by my writings. And I’m happy to be an outlier.
The original poster is a dealer. I would assume he would have consummated a sale at fair market value and not given it away for a deep discount. As such, I don't see much upside for eBay and don't see it as sleazy or "shady." Annoying to some, perhaps.
The items are relisted by seller 8ten1944 a few weeks after the confiscation.
Maybe he's also selling all of the pens they confiscated from us! Lol.
I appreciate your humor, but the washing of the transaction into the system and then the item reappearing in the same venue is shady, at least. So essentially, no one should care because everyone feeds from the same trough.
What’s shady about it?
Let me simplify , as I read it.
Example : you buy coin from me. I send it to you overseas. It gets intercepted and confiscated. ebay gives you your money back and gives me my money back. That’s not shady at all. The fact that a third person now has it listed for sale on ebay seems a bit shady to me.
I don't understand that comment.
The seller didn't get their money "back". They simply got to keep the proceeds from the sale.
As for someone selling the coins on ebay, what else should happen? Should ebay destroy the stuff they can't send overseas?
Quite frankly, I'm surprised scammers haven't caught on to this opportunity. A buyer and seller could artificially inflate the price of something that ebay will buy back, knowing that ebay will pay out whatever the purchase price was.
Read between the lines. The seller was refunded his money ( got his money from the sale back). Is comprehension so tough ? And why should a 3rd party then be allowed to sell the item ? Why not return it to the original seller ? Guess I was raised different. It isn’t another person’s item to sell.
THEY WERE GIVEN THE FULL SALE PRICE. In fact, eBay owns it and it would be criminal for the original seller to sell a coin they no longer own. (Slight exaggeration.)
If you were complaining that the buyer didn't get the coin, I could understand it. The seller has no claim on the item and i don't know they would want a return (ever heard ebay sellers complain about returns?) rather than be allowed to keep the MONEY from the sale.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I’m not complaining or suggesting anything criminal. I think the practice of confiscation for the sake of reselling to a 3rd party who resells on same venue is shady. But as a capitalist , I’m all for the market continuing, however it spins. Then again, I think pawn shops have shady practices even though they’re legal and legitimate. But, I think credit card companies have shady practices too.
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
I’m not complaining or suggesting anything criminal. I think the practice of confiscation for the sake of reselling to a 3rd party who resells on same venue is shady. But as a capitalist , I’m all for the market continuing, however it spins. Then again, I think pawn shops have shady practices even though they’re legal and legitimate. But, I think credit card companies have shady practices too.
It's not "confiscation" when you paid FULL PRICE for it.
(And then they sell it for a fraction of that. )
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@MasonG said:
You think eBay confiscated the coins so they could sell them to another buyer?
Really?
It's unbelievable. The LAST thing ebay wants is to acquire inventory they need to resell to try and get a fraction of what they paid.
I'm not seeing the upside either. eBay refunds both the buyer and seller, essentially paying full price for an item and sells it to an eBay reseller. To do what with? Resell on eBay. The reseller isn't going to want stuff at full price if they're going to sell it themselves, so eBay will have to discount the stuff they "confiscate".
"Shady" is the wrong word to describe this scheme- "stupid" is more like it.
@MasonG said:
You think eBay confiscated the coins so they could sell them to another buyer?
Really?
It's unbelievable. The LAST thing ebay wants is to acquire inventory they need to resell to try and get a fraction of what they paid.
I'm not seeing the upside either. eBay refunds both the buyer and seller, essentially paying full price for an item and sells it to an eBay reseller. To do what with? Resell on eBay. The reseller isn't going to want stuff at full price if they're going to sell it themselves, so eBay will have to discount the stuff they "confiscate".
"Shady" is the wrong word to describe this scheme- "stupid" is more like it.
I think "unfortunate" is the better term. Any kind of buyer or seller guarantee creates this problem. Amazon sells truckload of returns they end up with at steep discounts to people who resell them. All retailers end up liquidating returns because they can't retail used goods.
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@jmlanzaf said:
I think "unfortunate" is the better term. Any kind of buyer or seller guarantee creates this problem. Amazon sells truckload of returns they end up with at steep discounts to people who resell them. All retailers end up liquidating returns because they can't retail used goods.
I'd go with "unfortunate" in your scenario, but that's not what was claimed to be happening earlier in the thread. I still contend eBay intentionally confiscating stuff with the plan to sell it to someone else is "stupid".
To those who don't think ebay should be selling off the stuff that they can't ship overseas, what do you propose they do with it?
This arrangement is the best possible outcome for merchandise that can't legally be exported. The seller isn't impacted and the buyer is made whole.
Ebay is basically self-insuring, and when they have to pay off a "claim" by buying in the merchandise, they need to do something with it. Why not sell it to recoup some of their costs?
Quite frankly, it's a little surprising in it's fair treatment of both sellers and buyers. People aren't used to that.
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
I’m not complaining or suggesting anything criminal. I think the practice of confiscation for the sake of reselling to a 3rd party who resells on same venue is shady. But as a capitalist , I’m all for the market continuing, however it spins. Then again, I think pawn shops have shady practices even though they’re legal and legitimate. But, I think credit card companies have shady practices too.
and if they can take a loss on a wholesale re-sell, then they can take a loss and mail it back.
ebay is a shipper, not an owner. ebay is not the government. they have no right to confiscate an item.
@MsMorrisine said:
ebay is a shipper, not an owner. ebay is not the government. they have no right to confiscate an item.
eBay is not an owner, it's not the government and it doesn't confiscate items. If you had read eBay's International Shipping Seller Terms & Conditions, you wouldn't have made that comment.
"If eBay or eBay’s third party service providers determine, after your Buyer has purchased an EIS Item, that the EIS Item is ineligible for the Program or cannot be sent to your Buyer (for whatever reason), eBay and its affiliates shall have the right to cancel your sale of the EIS Item in lieu of proceeding with the processing and/or shipment of the EIS Item and, upon exercising this right, shall have the right to reverse the payment that your Buyer made to you for the EIS Item and will process the EIS Item as an undeliverable item and may elect to return the EIS Item to you as described below.
...
Undeliverable Items:
eBay shall have no liability and shall have, in their discretion and in any manner that they prefer, the right to dispose of or liquidate EIS Items that are undeliverable, for whatever reason.
If an EIS Item is undeliverable, the EIS item will be liquidated or disposed of, and title will transfer automatically from you to eBay’s third party vendor and you will keep your Buyer’s payment.
You acknowledge that allowing you to retain your Buyer’s payment for the EIS Item is sufficient consideration for the transfer of title to any third party or the disposal of your EIS item."
"Title to an EIS Item remains with you until such time that the EIS Item is successfully delivered to your Buyer or their consignee, at which time title to the EIS Item shall transfer to your Buyer or their consignee. If the EIS Item is undeliverable, title will transfer automatically from you to eBay’s third party vendor . Save for the aforesaid, at no time does eBay (or its affiliates) or the third party service providers, or other subcontractors under contract with eBay or its third party service providers’ subcontractors take title to an EIS Item, unless explicitly stated."
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
I’m not complaining or suggesting anything criminal. I think the practice of confiscation for the sake of reselling to a 3rd party who resells on same venue is shady. But as a capitalist , I’m all for the market continuing, however it spins. Then again, I think pawn shops have shady practices even though they’re legal and legitimate. But, I think credit card companies have shady practices too.
and if they can take a loss on a wholesale re-sell, then they can take a loss and mail it back.
ebay is a shipper, not an owner. ebay is not the government. they have no right to confiscate an item.
They didn't confiscate it they BOUGHT IT.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
I’m not complaining or suggesting anything criminal. I think the practice of confiscation for the sake of reselling to a 3rd party who resells on same venue is shady. But as a capitalist , I’m all for the market continuing, however it spins. Then again, I think pawn shops have shady practices even though they’re legal and legitimate. But, I think credit card companies have shady practices too.
and if they can take a loss on a wholesale re-sell, then they can take a loss and mail it back.
ebay is a shipper, not an owner. ebay is not the government. they have no right to confiscate an item.
They didn't confiscate it they BOUGHT IT.
"Title to an EIS Item remains with you until such time that the EIS Item is successfully delivered to your Buyer or their consignee, at which time title to the EIS Item shall transfer to your Buyer or their consignee. If the EIS Item is undeliverable, title will transfer automatically from you to eBay’s third party vendor."
Seems clear enough, but apparently not for everybody.
This whole thing is just silly. eBay offers a way for people to sell worldwide with no need to fuss with customs forms or any of the other details that make international shipping more complicated. And what do people do? They complain about it.
@MasonG said:
This whole thing is just silly. eBay offers a way for people to sell worldwide with no need to fuss with customs forms or any of the other details that make international shipping more complicated. And what do people do? They complain about it.
No complaints. Offering to sell worldwide is okay. Should the user in Australia quit using ebay because his purchase was confiscated ? He/she isn’t here to tell their view. On second thought ; if it were an auction item, wouldn’t it be fair if the underbidder could have had the opportunity to win ? In which case a return would be in order….yet that’s another question of ownership. And having a point of view does not mean one is lodging a complaint.
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
No complaints. Offering to sell worldwide is okay.
Good to hear.
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
Should the user in Australia quit using ebay because his purchase was confiscated ?
First off, his purchase wasn't confiscated. According to the seller, eBay said the item could not be shipped. As to what he "should" do, that's his choice.
Maybe he is, but he's not saying anything just yet?
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
On second thought ; if it were an auction item, wouldn’t it be fair if the underbidder could have had the opportunity to win? In which case a return would be in order
When the winning bidder in an auction returns a coin because he doesn't like it, the underbidder doesn't have the opportunity to win.
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
….yet that’s another question of ownership.
Actually, no. The terms of service are clear on how ownership works.
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
And having a point of view does not mean one is lodging a complaint.
@MasonG said:
This whole thing is just silly. eBay offers a way for people to sell worldwide with no need to fuss with customs forms or any of the other details that make international shipping more complicated. And what do people do? They complain about it.
No complaints. Offering to sell worldwide is okay. Should the user in Australia quit using ebay because his purchase was confiscated ? He/she isn’t here to tell their view. On second thought ; if it were an auction item, wouldn’t it be fair if the underbidder could have had the opportunity to win ? In which case a return would be in order….yet that’s another question of ownership. And having a point of view does not mean one is lodging a complaint.
sometimes an item can go back on sale and get less, and sometimes more.
you miss 100% of your re-sale shots if you don't have a shot due to confiscation
@MasonG said:
This whole thing is just silly. eBay offers a way for people to sell worldwide with no need to fuss with customs forms or any of the other details that make international shipping more complicated. And what do people do? They complain about it.
No complaints. Offering to sell worldwide is okay. Should the user in Australia quit using ebay because his purchase was confiscated ? He/she isn’t here to tell their view. On second thought ; if it were an auction item, wouldn’t it be fair if the underbidder could have had the opportunity to win ? In which case a return would be in order….yet that’s another question of ownership. And having a point of view does not mean one is lodging a complaint.
sometimes an item can go back on sale and get less, and sometimes more.
you miss 100% of your re-sale shots if you don't have a shot due to confiscation
Doesn't matter what you think should happen, there are no resale shots with eBay International Shipping.
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I don't understand that comment.
The seller didn't get their money "back". They simply got to keep the proceeds from the sale.
As for someone selling the coins on ebay, what else should happen? Should ebay destroy the stuff they can't send overseas?
Quite frankly, I'm surprised scammers haven't caught on to this opportunity. A buyer and seller could artificially inflate the price of something that ebay will buy back, knowing that ebay will pay out whatever the purchase price was.
What Would Heritage Auctions Do? (Took me a minute to figure it out. You have to read his next post.)
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What I don't understand as an Ebay seller (and buyer) is why Ebay lets the transaction even get started. They know they are going to confiscate Russian items that are going through the International hub. They know the address of buyer and seller. They know the item is Russian. Why not stop it at the source, i.e. block the sale in the first place. It is a simple code change. It would be a lot less messy, and the buyer and seller would be a lot less frustrated...
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Ok. I surrender. And agree ebay sucks. They can remove an item in the shipping process and let another sell it. If that’s kosher, I’m Jewish.
Read between the lines. The seller was refunded his money ( got his money from the sale back). Is comprehension so tough ? And why should a 3rd party then be allowed to sell the item ? Why not return it to the original seller ? Guess I was raised different. It isn’t another person’s item to sell.
What I don't understand is why people are making a fuss over a situation without knowing the details of what happened. And unless you work for eBay at their international shipping hub, you'll probably never know. Bottom line: The seller keeps the money he was paid and the buyer is refunded for the uncompleted sale. Who's been harmed?
If you can identify a predictable policy, then this could be quite useful to someone willing to game the system but would work to eBay's detriment. Someone could arrange a pen pal in a foreign country to "buy" coins at strong money knowing that eBay would be stuck with the coins.
I'm not advocating for this at all, I just find eBay's policy strange.
The original
Buyer who didn’t give a hoot about money and wanted the item in the first place ? Maybe that hurt and maybe it didn’t. And maybe you don’t have reasoning ability.
His reasoning is absolutely fine and the same goes for @JBK, whom you also insulted.
The eBay policy doesn’t make a lot of sense to many of us, but there’s nothing shady about it. eBay probably has more losses than profits on the resales of affected items and they’re not doing anything underhanded.
But I guess those of us who disagree with you must not have good comprehension or reasoning ability.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
You guess. Guess the issue.
It’s shady to me. And at this juncture, I’m merely adding to my post count for fun, with people.
Hi JBK. Sorry if you felt insulted by my question on comprehension. Anyway, that’s how Feld felt. Maybe you guys are whispering back and forth through PMs. I’m sorry if anyone might be emotionally or otherwise insulted or traumatized by my writings. And I’m happy to be an outlier.
The original poster is a dealer. I would assume he would have consummated a sale at fair market value and not given it away for a deep discount. As such, I don't see much upside for eBay and don't see it as sleazy or "shady." Annoying to some, perhaps.
When it comes to eBay, some people seem to enjoy finding things to complain about.
THEY WERE GIVEN THE FULL SALE PRICE. In fact, eBay owns it and it would be criminal for the original seller to sell a coin they no longer own. (Slight exaggeration.)
If you were complaining that the buyer didn't get the coin, I could understand it. The seller has no claim on the item and i don't know they would want a return (ever heard ebay sellers complain about returns?) rather than be allowed to keep the MONEY from the sale.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I’m not complaining or suggesting anything criminal. I think the practice of confiscation for the sake of reselling to a 3rd party who resells on same venue is shady. But as a capitalist , I’m all for the market continuing, however it spins. Then again, I think pawn shops have shady practices even though they’re legal and legitimate. But, I think credit card companies have shady practices too.
You think eBay confiscated the coins so they could sell them to another buyer?
Really?
It's unbelievable. The LAST thing ebay wants is to acquire inventory they need to resell to try and get a fraction of what they paid.
USPS and FedEx do the same thing. Not because they want to be retailers, but because they have to get rid of the unwanted material they acquire.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
It's not "confiscation" when you paid FULL PRICE for it.
(And then they sell it for a fraction of that. )
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I'm not seeing the upside either. eBay refunds both the buyer and seller, essentially paying full price for an item and sells it to an eBay reseller. To do what with? Resell on eBay. The reseller isn't going to want stuff at full price if they're going to sell it themselves, so eBay will have to discount the stuff they "confiscate".
"Shady" is the wrong word to describe this scheme- "stupid" is more like it.
I think "unfortunate" is the better term. Any kind of buyer or seller guarantee creates this problem. Amazon sells truckload of returns they end up with at steep discounts to people who resell them. All retailers end up liquidating returns because they can't retail used goods.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I'd go with "unfortunate" in your scenario, but that's not what was claimed to be happening earlier in the thread. I still contend eBay intentionally confiscating stuff with the plan to sell it to someone else is "stupid".
To those who don't think ebay should be selling off the stuff that they can't ship overseas, what do you propose they do with it?
This arrangement is the best possible outcome for merchandise that can't legally be exported. The seller isn't impacted and the buyer is made whole.
Ebay is basically self-insuring, and when they have to pay off a "claim" by buying in the merchandise, they need to do something with it. Why not sell it to recoup some of their costs?
Quite frankly, it's a little surprising in it's fair treatment of both sellers and buyers. People aren't used to that.
and if they can take a loss on a wholesale re-sell, then they can take a loss and mail it back.
ebay is a shipper, not an owner. ebay is not the government. they have no right to confiscate an item.
eBay is not an owner, it's not the government and it doesn't confiscate items. If you had read eBay's International Shipping Seller Terms & Conditions, you wouldn't have made that comment.
eBay International Shipping Terms of Service: -- https://pages.ebay.com/internationalshippingprogram/seller/terms/
"If eBay or eBay’s third party service providers determine, after your Buyer has purchased an EIS Item, that the EIS Item is ineligible for the Program or cannot be sent to your Buyer (for whatever reason), eBay and its affiliates shall have the right to cancel your sale of the EIS Item in lieu of proceeding with the processing and/or shipment of the EIS Item and, upon exercising this right, shall have the right to reverse the payment that your Buyer made to you for the EIS Item and will process the EIS Item as an undeliverable item and may elect to return the EIS Item to you as described below.
...
Undeliverable Items:
eBay shall have no liability and shall have, in their discretion and in any manner that they prefer, the right to dispose of or liquidate EIS Items that are undeliverable, for whatever reason.
If an EIS Item is undeliverable, the EIS item will be liquidated or disposed of, and title will transfer automatically from you to eBay’s third party vendor and you will keep your Buyer’s payment.
You acknowledge that allowing you to retain your Buyer’s payment for the EIS Item is sufficient consideration for the transfer of title to any third party or the disposal of your EIS item."
Also:
"Title to an EIS Item remains with you until such time that the EIS Item is successfully delivered to your Buyer or their consignee, at which time title to the EIS Item shall transfer to your Buyer or their consignee. If the EIS Item is undeliverable, title will transfer automatically from you to eBay’s third party vendor . Save for the aforesaid, at no time does eBay (or its affiliates) or the third party service providers, or other subcontractors under contract with eBay or its third party service providers’ subcontractors take title to an EIS Item, unless explicitly stated."
But hey- eBay sucks.
ebay is a shipper, not an owner. ebay is not the government. they have no right to confiscate an item.
They didn't confiscate it they BOUGHT IT.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
By using the service and agreeing to the Terms, they do.
"Title to an EIS Item remains with you until such time that the EIS Item is successfully delivered to your Buyer or their consignee, at which time title to the EIS Item shall transfer to your Buyer or their consignee. If the EIS Item is undeliverable, title will transfer automatically from you to eBay’s third party vendor."
Seems clear enough, but apparently not for everybody.
I think that settles it.
If you don't like the terms, you can opt out.
This whole thing is just silly. eBay offers a way for people to sell worldwide with no need to fuss with customs forms or any of the other details that make international shipping more complicated. And what do people do? They complain about it.
No complaints. Offering to sell worldwide is okay. Should the user in Australia quit using ebay because his purchase was confiscated ? He/she isn’t here to tell their view. On second thought ; if it were an auction item, wouldn’t it be fair if the underbidder could have had the opportunity to win ? In which case a return would be in order….yet that’s another question of ownership. And having a point of view does not mean one is lodging a complaint.
Good to hear.
First off, his purchase wasn't confiscated. According to the seller, eBay said the item could not be shipped. As to what he "should" do, that's his choice.
Maybe he is, but he's not saying anything just yet?
When the winning bidder in an auction returns a coin because he doesn't like it, the underbidder doesn't have the opportunity to win.
Actually, no. The terms of service are clear on how ownership works.
No, it doesn't. But it can.
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sometimes an item can go back on sale and get less, and sometimes more.
you miss 100% of your re-sale shots if you don't have a shot due to confiscation
No, thank you.
Doesn't matter what you think should happen, there are no resale shots with eBay International Shipping.