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PROMETHIUS88PROMETHIUS88 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

I rarely get them in so I'm not good at detecting counterfeits. This one weighs right and sounds good but I know that's the be all end all. What do you think?

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    CivilWarBuffCivilWarBuff Posts: 109 ✭✭✭

    I am not a Trade Dollar expert but it looks bad to me.

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    keojkeoj Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks okay to me but with these images, hard to tell. It looks like a JK-4 die marriage. If you own this coin, tell me if you see a die crack between E and D (at the base of the letters) of "TRADE" and "DOLLAR", or any other die cracks. This is a IIM/IIM type that is a "legal" combo for a 77. Again, hard to tell. If you weighed it, that's a good sign.

    Keoj

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    lermishlermish Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I always defer to @keoj but it looks ok to me as well.

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

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    PROMETHIUS88PROMETHIUS88 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keoj said:
    Looks okay to me but with these images, hard to tell. It looks like a JK-4 die marriage. If you own this coin, tell me if you see a die crack between E and D (at the base of the letters) of "TRADE" and "DOLLAR", or any other die cracks. This is a IIM/IIM type that is a "legal" combo for a 77. Again, hard to tell. If you weighed it, that's a good sign.

    Keoj

    I don't see a die crack between those letters using a loupe.

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    RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CivilWarBuff said:
    ** I am not a Trade Dollar expert **but it looks bad to me.

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    KSorboKSorbo Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    I’m not a Trade Dollar expert, and therefore every Trade Dollar looks bad to me unless it is in a TPG holder.

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    CivilWarBuffCivilWarBuff Posts: 109 ✭✭✭

    My mistake, I was going on a couple of incorrect assumptions. I thought I read somewhere that the stem of the olive branch must connect to the leaves, but I guess it is not the case. And there the eagles neck feather attach to tits body looked odd, maybe that was just damage. And lastly the denticles looks so darn thick and long that it seemed more like the denticles of a 1795 DB dollar so I assumed the Trade Dollar was counterfeit. Nice to learn that I was wrong and have Keoj on the forum.

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    keojkeoj Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭✭

    Given no die crack, that is a negative. Just not enough to make any determination remotely without physical assessment. TPG will make the call. Wish there were more tells to push it one way or another. Let a TPG make the call. Let me know how it goes. Its good to learn. Keoj

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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    edited November 1, 2026 8:35PM

    To me at least, the obverse looks heavily retooled/re-engraved.

    Consider the above statement retracted.

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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
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    RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aegis3 said:
    To me at least, the obverse looks heavily retooled/re-engraved.

    It appears like an average genuine, albeit cleaned with baking soda back in the day, Trade dollar.

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    PROMETHIUS88PROMETHIUS88 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keoj said:
    Given no die crack, that is a negative. Just not enough to make any determination remotely without physical assessment. TPG will make the call. Wish there were more tells to push it one way or another. Let a TPG make the call. Let me know how it goes. Its good to learn. Keoj

    This was the best I can come up with.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks XF but would not procure a raw one. Wonder why it’s not slabbed?

    Investor
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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭

    @RedRocket said:

    @Aegis3 said:
    To me at least, the obverse looks heavily retooled/re-engraved.

    It appears like an average genuine, albeit cleaned with baking soda back in the day, Trade dollar.

    Yeah, upon further review and looking at images of circulated 1877 trade dollars, I was embarrassingly wrong.

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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    100% real, Vf worth a couple of hundred

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