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Bypassing eBay Authenticity Guarantee Program question.

VetterVetter Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for the reasoning behind the eBay program. I think it works great on paper and even for the most part in real life. That being said, there are some sellers that are well know and would never jeopardize their reputation over a $500 coin. Unfortunately they still must send them to PCGS and then off to the buyer. One item at a time, even if the buyer purchased multiple items.
So what’s to stop the buyer from getting a $500+ item and also buying say a $25 item and asking the seller to send the $500 item along with the $25 item, totally bypassing the eBay program?
Would this work?

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    scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭

    Will eBay allow a seller to combine shipments for an item with the guarantee?

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scotty1419 said:
    Will eBay allow a seller to combine shipments for an item with the guarantee?

    No.

    However, if the seller listed the 2 items together, it should bypass the program. That's what the card folks do. It doesn't even have to be that dramatic. Just list a $500 coin with a quarter and it will bypass the program.

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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 31, 2026 6:45AM

    Wont work : but listing two items in one may as others have said, but

    ebay will not allow it, I have a regional customer we tried it with, and wont let you around, cant combine, no shipping address (if youve done previous business with somebody you might know thier address, but you cant upload it, and if ebay detects it, it will be like trying to circumvent their system, and you may get banned? Also there would be no seller protection as well per above. This particular buyer of mine will no longer bid on anything above 500 becuase he dosnt want to deal with this process. (his loss not mine) I personally think its a good system to clean out fraudster sellers so Im ok with it, turn around times have been pretty quick to buyer best I can tell.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Potential customers can always do a search online of a business, look for the website and contact the sellers, or sell on the bst sections. I had one of the good forum members contact me on a bst and we did the payment through paypal; he used faf but it still deducted the 3% because paypal has me as a business apparently. eBay gives the customers protections that you don't get elsewhere. And since they are not charging at this point for the authentication service the problems are limited to not being able to send perks to the customer in addition to the coin and the delays.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vetter said:
    One item at a time, even if the buyer purchased multiple items.

    I would think most sellers would already be pricing $500+ coins as though they were being purchased individually. Why would shipping them to PCGS individually be an issue?

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    scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭

    Based on my several experiences, I see buying a guarantee program coin as a slight annoyance for extended shipping transit delay, but trying to avoid that and the extra verification through a loophole? That seems a bizarre reaction to trying to avoid an extra service...

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jdimmick said:

    This particular buyer of mine will no longer bid on anything above 500 becuase he dosnt want to deal with this process. (his loss not mine)

    His loss??? Losing a customer would seem to me as YOUR loss

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @jdimmick said:

    This particular buyer of mine will no longer bid on anything above 500 becuase he dosnt want to deal with this process. (his loss not mine)

    His loss??? Losing a customer would seem to me as YOUR loss

    I took the original quote to mean that this local customer of his won't buy anything off ebay above the $500 threshold because of the new policy, which would harm the customer and not @jdimmick. Obviously, I could have interpreted that incorrectly.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Losing a customer who wants you to do something that would invalidate your seller protection and possibly get you banned doesn't seem like the worst thing that could happen to you.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:

    @alaura22 said:

    @jdimmick said:

    This particular buyer of mine will no longer bid on anything above 500 becuase he dosnt want to deal with this process. (his loss not mine)

    His loss??? Losing a customer would seem to me as YOUR loss

    I took the original quote to mean that this local customer of his won't buy anything off ebay above the $500 threshold because of the new policy, which would harm the customer and not @jdimmick. Obviously, I could have interpreted that incorrectly.

    What I'm saying is that his customer local or otherwise won't buy the coin bc of the policy.

    @MasonG said:
    Losing a customer who wants you to do something that would invalidate your seller protection and possibly get you banned doesn't seem like the worst thing that could happen to you.

    The customer isn't saying anything about doing something outside of the ebay policy, he just stated that he wouldn't buy it under that policy

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "I have a regional customer we tried it with"

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    "I have a regional customer we tried it with"

    Didn't say that the regional customer advocated for it

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 31, 2026 3:27PM

    Didn't say he didn't. Why would a seller advocate for something that could get them banned, that the buyer didn't want them to do?

    edited to add... I truly don't understand the level of angst being exhibited over having to wait a little longer to receive a purchase due to the authenticity examination. It's like listening to a bunch of six-year-olds two weeks before Christmas. So it takes longer to get your package- it's not like you're being asked to donate a kidney. You've lived your whole life without that coin- what's a few more days?

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,326 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 31, 2026 4:00PM

    @alaura22 said:

    @jdimmick said:

    This particular buyer of mine will no longer bid on anything above 500 becuase he dosnt want to deal with this process. (his loss not mine)

    His loss??? Losing a customer would seem to me as YOUR loss

    Not if you gain more than you lose.

    And an unreasonable buyer isn't worth having. The buyer seemed to be trying to bypass the system through loopholes. I would be fine with losing such a customer.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    Didn't say he didn't. Why would a seller advocate for something that could get them banned, that the buyer didn't want them to do?

    edited to add... I truly don't understand the level of angst being exhibited over having to wait a little longer to receive a purchase due to the authenticity examination. It's like listening to a bunch of six-year-olds two weeks before Christmas. So it takes longer to get your package- it's not like you're being asked to donate a kidney. You've lived your whole life without that coin- what's a few more days?

    Yes, it is interesting. The program costs the buyer (and seller) nothing and introduces better protection for both sellers and buyers. Ask at the cost of maybe a couple weeks delay.

    I have bid on lots in an auction, had to wait 2 or more weeks to see if the bid would win and then wait another week or two for delivery. A bid on a Hong Kong auction ended up taking over 2 months. It never even crossed my mind to complain about it.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    Didn't say he didn't. Why would a seller advocate for something that could get them banned, that the buyer didn't want them to do?

    **Are you assuming??? You know what that infers
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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "I have a regional customer we tried it with" (posted by jdimmick October 31, 2026 7:45AM and quoted by MasonG October 31, 2026 3:47PM)

    You said "Didn't say that the regional customer advocated for it"
    I said "Didn't say he didn't."

    If I'm assuming, so are you. Your call.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    "I have a regional customer** we** tried it with" (posted by jdimmick October 31, 2026 7:45AM and quoted by MasonG October 31, 2026 3:47PM)

    You said "Didn't say that the regional customer advocated for it"
    I said "Didn't say he didn't."

    If I'm assuming, so are you. Your call.

    We, is that him and the customer or him and the mouse in his pocket?
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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's okay that you don't want to say one way or the other. :)

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