Best of the Mint (5) 1907 Saint-Gaudens High Relief $20 Gold Coin and Silver Medal Set
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I like the medal but that is an absolutely hilarious take!!
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@jmlanzaf said:
@toranamira said:
Still 7500 left after two hours. No, it's not going to sell out today and perhaps not in the next week.Or ever.
You could very well be right. This one at first glance seems to be moving slower than BOM4 which still has 1911 left available. BOM5 now sits at 7239 after four hours on sale. 5094 have sold today (not taking into account that the ATS number actually ROSE a few hundred just a few minutes into the drop time.
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Yup. Here again, a classic work of art with a foolish "privy mark" slammed into the design.
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Now listen boy, I'm tryin' to teach you sumthin' . . . . that ain't an optical illusion, it only looks like an optical illusion.
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No matter how much I try I just can't like the medal.
The way Ms. Liberty is drawn she has skinny biceps paired with really large extensor and flexor muscles and her forearm appears to move or bend in an unnatural manner. That, in combination with her absolute man-hands, always makes me look at the image and think this was a quick, first pass drawing that was never corrected.
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I checked this at 4:30 pm EST today, and also did the same for BOM 4 at the same time when it went on sale. To compare the two one ounce releases from this series:
Bom 4 ATS at drop was 11,044 and 4243 remained at 4:30 that day...sold 6801
Bom 5 ATS at drop was 12,333 and 7186 remained at 4:30 that day...sold 51474 -
I couldn't help myself and called the Mint about my order that said it could not be filled. They said it was a CC issue. This is despite that the CC is the same one that they've shipped my subscriptions with w/no issue.
Has anyone else had inexplicable CC issues? The rep could not tell me why there was an issue.
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@Raufus said:
I couldn't help myself and called the Mint about my order that said it could not be filled. They said it was a CC issue. This is despite that the CC is the same one that they've shipped my subscriptions with w/no issue.Has anyone else had inexplicable CC issues? The rep could not tell me why there was an issue.
I have not, but here (and on other social media platforms) there have been more than a handful of people suffering under the same issue as you right now. I have seen several people have had to leave messages (with no call back) I hope you get it resolved.
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@BStrauss3 said:
As of 12:24 pm US/Eastern... Available to sell:26BM1 - Dime - $795.00 - 144 (was a sellout; these are returns)
26BM2 - Quarter - $1,590.00 - 11,501
26BM3 - Half - $2,900.00 - 19,440
26BM4 - Dollar - $5,490.00 - 1,971
26BM5 - $20 - $5,490.00 - 8,212If you have $15,470, you can buy the full set today.
$16,265 with the dime
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@joepabike said:
I thought for sure I would get this and had an alarm set on my phone, and had signed up for text message reminders, etc. But I just couldn't pull the trigger once I saw the 'in-hand' pictures above--that privy mark is so obnoxious.I share your feelings on the privy, but have found with most of the others, it is not as noticeable in hand as I thought. Maybe mine are weak strikes lol.
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@Raufus said:
I couldn't help myself and called the Mint about my order that said it could not be filled. They said it was a CC issue. This is despite that the CC is the same one that they've shipped my subscriptions with w/no issue.Has anyone else had inexplicable CC issues? The rep could not tell me why there was an issue.
I had an issue like this earlier this year. One of the recent big releases it looked like the problem was quite frequent with many people.
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@Raufus I'm conducting a survey, I would appreciate it if you would please provide me your feelings on the new format.
I totally agree btw.
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Wow, still over 7000 left.
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@toranamira said:
Wow, still over 7000 left.They slowed down big time.
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The low/slow sales will be good for the medal values. I bought one because I think people are missing the opportunity to sell off the medal to subsidize the gold.
I messed up and somehow selected express shipping. Per the shipping notifications, it looks like I'll have it tomorrow!
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@ProofCollection said:
The low/slow sales will be good for the medal values. I bought one because I think people are missing the opportunity to sell off the medal to subsidize the gold.I messed up and somehow selected express shipping. Per the shipping notifications, it looks like I'll have it tomorrow!
Please post pics lol
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I’m torn. I really want this coin but think it may come down in value and I may be able to pick it up graded cheaper later. Of course if it does not sell well it may skyrocket later, lol. I’ll give it a few days to decide.
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@jwitten said:
I’m torn. I really want this coin but think it may come down in value and I may be able to pick it up graded cheaper later. Of course if it does not sell well it may skyrocket later, lol. I’ll give it a few days to decide.prices are elevated in the aftermarket due to demand
since this is cold, there will be no elevation to come down later
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The way gold is going, it'll be at least $100 cheaper on Wednesday. If it doesn't sell out by then.
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@ProofCollection said:
The low/slow sales will be good for the medal values. I bought one because I think people are missing the opportunity to sell off the medal to subsidize the gold.I messed up and somehow selected express shipping. Per the shipping notifications, it looks like I'll have it tomorrow!
From the prices for the 0.25 oz, 0.50 oz, and 1.00 ounce sets, it seems that the Mint is pricing the silver medal by itself at about $300. That's a fairly high price and if the Mint had a different set of products that contain only the gold coin but at a price that is $300 less than the set of products that contain a gold coin and silver medal, I almost certainly would have passed on the silver medals.
Each of the silver medals has something about it that I do not like:
Mercury dime medal - I actually think this is a fairly nice looking medal but the art style seems incongruous with the style of art on typical U.S. coinage. All in all, I like the medal but not at $300.
Standing Liberty quarter medal - I've commented before that I think Liberty's foot is wrong, being a right foot when it should be a left foot. The reverse of the medal is kind of odd, too, now that I look at it again after complaining about Liberty's foot on the obverse. Eagle's talons (feet). Did Quentin Tarantino help design this medal?
Render the correct foot on Liberty and I would have bought this medal if it were optional.Walking Liberty medal - I do not not like this medal at all. Liberty looks like a man in a martial arts pose and the eagle looks like it is diving to attack something.
Flowing Hair Liberty medal - I think this is the best looking medal out of all of them. I think the reverse is uninspired but the obverse is terrific. I would have paid $300 extra to get this medal.
Saint Gaudens medal - I have not yet received this set but I do not like the medal and thus would have liked an option to save $300 and get the gold coin only. On coins, I don't like faces not rendered in profile and this medal seems particularly bad. I don't like the reverse, either, where the eagle's wings turn into the flag.
All that said, I'm not selling my medals. I'm kind of a stickler for keeping sets together.
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@MrBear said:
The way gold is going, it'll be at least $100 cheaper on Wednesday. If it doesn't sell out by then.It's not exactly setting the world on fire. I thought it would be a bit more in demand than it has been, but maybe fatigue with all the Mint has offered this year has set in. Let's see what the removal of the HHL will do at noon. Still 6901 left as of 9:30 am
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@MWK said:
@ProofCollection said:
The low/slow sales will be good for the medal values. I bought one because I think people are missing the opportunity to sell off the medal to subsidize the gold.I messed up and somehow selected express shipping. Per the shipping notifications, it looks like I'll have it tomorrow!
From the prices for the 0.25 oz, 0.50 oz, and 1.00 ounce sets, it seems that the Mint is pricing the silver medal by itself at about $300. That's a fairly high price and if the Mint had a different set of products that contain only the gold coin but at a price that is $300 less than the set of products that contain a gold coin and silver medal, I almost certainly would have passed on the silver medals.
Each of the silver medals has something about it that I do not like:
Mercury dime medal - I actually think this is a fairly nice looking medal but the art style seems incongruous with the style of art on typical U.S. coinage. All in all, I like the medal but not at $300.
Standing Liberty quarter medal - I've commented before that I think Liberty's foot is wrong, being a right foot when it should be a left foot. The reverse of the medal is kind of odd, too, now that I look at it again after complaining about Liberty's foot on the obverse. Eagle's talons (feet). Did Quentin Tarantino help design this medal?
Render the correct foot on Liberty and I would have bought this medal if it were optional.Walking Liberty medal - I do not not like this medal at all. Liberty looks like a man in a martial arts pose and the eagle looks like it is diving to attack something.
Flowing Hair Liberty medal - I think this is the best looking medal out of all of them. I think the reverse is uninspired but the obverse is terrific. I would have paid $300 extra to get this medal.
Saint Gaudens medal - I have not yet received this set but I do not like the medal and thus would have liked an option to save $300 and get the gold coin only. On coins, I don't like faces not rendered in profile and this medal seems particularly bad. I don't like the reverse, either, where the eagle's wings turn into the flag.
All that said, I'm not selling my medals. I'm kind of a stickler for keeping sets together.
I believe a fair cost valuation comes in at $250 by subtracting the price of a 24kt 1oz Proof Gold Buffalo from the BM4 and BM5 set prices. The medals are attainable for most collectors while the gold and complete sets are not. Many people like you will not divorce them. Thus there is a really low supply of available medals out there which is why we see current prices of around $800 for the medals alone. This could certainly go higher over time.
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HHL has been lifted.
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@ProofCollection said:
HHL has been lifted.A few more sold. 6715 ATS. This will be around for a few months unless we get a drastic dip in gold spot prices.
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@ProofCollection said:
HHL has been lifted.10 minutes before the HHL lift sold 5 coin sets. 15 minutes after HHL sold a hundred sets.
When HHL removed: ats= 6860
+2 min: 6856
+3 min: 6842
+4 min: 6829
+5 min: 6823
+6 min: 6809
+7 min: 6803
+8 min: 6794
+9 min: 6785
+10 min: 6777
+15 min: 6757
+20 min: 6738
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@ProofCollection said:
@MWK said:
@ProofCollection said:
The low/slow sales will be good for the medal values. I bought one because I think people are missing the opportunity to sell off the medal to subsidize the gold.I messed up and somehow selected express shipping. Per the shipping notifications, it looks like I'll have it tomorrow!
From the prices for the 0.25 oz, 0.50 oz, and 1.00 ounce sets, it seems that the Mint is pricing the silver medal by itself at about $300. That's a fairly high price and if the Mint had a different set of products that contain only the gold coin but at a price that is $300 less than the set of products that contain a gold coin and silver medal, I almost certainly would have passed on the silver medals.
Each of the silver medals has something about it that I do not like:
Mercury dime medal - I actually think this is a fairly nice looking medal but the art style seems incongruous with the style of art on typical U.S. coinage. All in all, I like the medal but not at $300.
Standing Liberty quarter medal - I've commented before that I think Liberty's foot is wrong, being a right foot when it should be a left foot. The reverse of the medal is kind of odd, too, now that I look at it again after complaining about Liberty's foot on the obverse. Eagle's talons (feet). Did Quentin Tarantino help design this medal?
Render the correct foot on Liberty and I would have bought this medal if it were optional.Walking Liberty medal - I do not not like this medal at all. Liberty looks like a man in a martial arts pose and the eagle looks like it is diving to attack something.
Flowing Hair Liberty medal - I think this is the best looking medal out of all of them. I think the reverse is uninspired but the obverse is terrific. I would have paid $300 extra to get this medal.
Saint Gaudens medal - I have not yet received this set but I do not like the medal and thus would have liked an option to save $300 and get the gold coin only. On coins, I don't like faces not rendered in profile and this medal seems particularly bad. I don't like the reverse, either, where the eagle's wings turn into the flag.
All that said, I'm not selling my medals. I'm kind of a stickler for keeping sets together.
I believe a fair cost valuation comes in at $250 by subtracting the price of a 24kt 1oz Proof Gold Buffalo from the BM4 and BM5 set prices. The medals are attainable for most collectors while the gold and complete sets are not. Many people like you will not divorce them. Thus there is a really low supply of available medals out there which is why we see current prices of around $800 for the medals alone. This could certainly go higher over time.
I should have mentioned my methodology for determining what the Mint thinks the silver medal is worth. I did a rough estimation by finding the price the medal would have to cost such that the Walking Liberty gold coin is half the price of the Flowing Hair or Saint Gaudens gold coins; the Standing Liberty gold coin is one-fourth the price of the one ounce gold coins; and the Mercury Dime gold coin is one-tenth the price of the one ounce gold coins.
$300 is the price that is close enough to meet those constraints although it does result in the Mercury Dime gold coin being a bit underpriced (it ends up costing a bit less than one-tenth the price of a one ounce BOM gold coin).
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I'm pretty impressed. Less than 26 hours after order it's in my hands. Did not see any flaws. But somehow, even with a foam insert, these capsules have tons of lint. I have no idea where that lint comes from.
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I didn't provide any commentary. In hand the coins are beautiful and she doesn't look like as much of a gargoyle/medusa. The satin finish looks delicious.
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@ProofCollection said:
I didn't provide any commentary. In hand the coins are beautiful and she doesn't look like as much of a gargoyle/medusa. The satin finish looks delicious.I didn’t do next day on this one so looks like I’ll be about a week. Thanks for sharing the images and your take on them. They look awesome from here!
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@ProofCollection said:
I'm pretty impressed. Less than 26 hours after order it's in my hands. Did not see any flaws. But somehow, even with a foam insert, these capsules have tons of lint. I have no idea where that lint comes from.PF, Thx for the horizontal pics.
Medal looks good. Fun Fact: BOM 4 & BOM 5 medals carry the 2026 (MMXXVI) date, the previous 3 do not.fka renman95, Sep 2005, 7,000 posts
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I love them. I'm not a historical customer of the mint but I am very impressed with the execution of the entire series.
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@D808LF said:
@ProofCollection said:
I'm pretty impressed. Less than 26 hours after order it's in my hands. Did not see any flaws. But somehow, even with a foam insert, these capsules have tons of lint. I have no idea where that lint comes from.PF, Thx for the horizontal pics.
Medal looks good. Fun Fact: BOM 4 & BOM 5 medals carry the 2026 (MMXXVI) date, the previous 3 do not.Hmmm
Good catch!
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@MWK said:
@ProofCollection said:
@MWK said:
@ProofCollection said:
The low/slow sales will be good for the medal values. I bought one because I think people are missing the opportunity to sell off the medal to subsidize the gold.I messed up and somehow selected express shipping. Per the shipping notifications, it looks like I'll have it tomorrow!
From the prices for the 0.25 oz, 0.50 oz, and 1.00 ounce sets, it seems that the Mint is pricing the silver medal by itself at about $300. That's a fairly high price and if the Mint had a different set of products that contain only the gold coin but at a price that is $300 less than the set of products that contain a gold coin and silver medal, I almost certainly would have passed on the silver medals.
Each of the silver medals has something about it that I do not like:
Mercury dime medal - I actually think this is a fairly nice looking medal but the art style seems incongruous with the style of art on typical U.S. coinage. All in all, I like the medal but not at $300.
Standing Liberty quarter medal - I've commented before that I think Liberty's foot is wrong, being a right foot when it should be a left foot. The reverse of the medal is kind of odd, too, now that I look at it again after complaining about Liberty's foot on the obverse. Eagle's talons (feet). Did Quentin Tarantino help design this medal?
Render the correct foot on Liberty and I would have bought this medal if it were optional.Walking Liberty medal - I do not not like this medal at all. Liberty looks like a man in a martial arts pose and the eagle looks like it is diving to attack something.
Flowing Hair Liberty medal - I think this is the best looking medal out of all of them. I think the reverse is uninspired but the obverse is terrific. I would have paid $300 extra to get this medal.
Saint Gaudens medal - I have not yet received this set but I do not like the medal and thus would have liked an option to save $300 and get the gold coin only. On coins, I don't like faces not rendered in profile and this medal seems particularly bad. I don't like the reverse, either, where the eagle's wings turn into the flag.
All that said, I'm not selling my medals. I'm kind of a stickler for keeping sets together.
I believe a fair cost valuation comes in at $250 by subtracting the price of a 24kt 1oz Proof Gold Buffalo from the BM4 and BM5 set prices. The medals are attainable for most collectors while the gold and complete sets are not. Many people like you will not divorce them. Thus there is a really low supply of available medals out there which is why we see current prices of around $800 for the medals alone. This could certainly go higher over time.
I should have mentioned my methodology for determining what the Mint thinks the silver medal is worth. I did a rough estimation by finding the price the medal would have to cost such that the Walking Liberty gold coin is half the price of the Flowing Hair or Saint Gaudens gold coins; the Standing Liberty gold coin is one-fourth the price of the one ounce gold coins; and the Mercury Dime gold coin is one-tenth the price of the one ounce gold coins.
$300 is the price that is close enough to meet those constraints although it does result in the Mercury Dime gold coin being a bit underpriced (it ends up costing a bit less than one-tenth the price of a one ounce BOM gold coin).
That's great, but it's flawed. No one, nowhere, prices fractional gold the way you are.
The lower gold content, the higher the premium. You need look no further than the Mint's own precious metal pricing grid to confirm this. 1/4 ounce gold does not cost 1/4 as much as one ounce gold. The medals are not priced at $300. @ProofCollection is spot on with this.
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@ProofCollection said:
I'm pretty impressed. Less than 26 hours after order it's in my hands. Did not see any flaws. But somehow, even with a foam insert, these capsules have tons of lint. I have no idea where that lint comes from.I had LOTS of lint in tbe 1806 medal, none in the gold.
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@Rdf said:
@ProofCollection said:
I'm pretty impressed. Less than 26 hours after order it's in my hands. Did not see any flaws. But somehow, even with a foam insert, these capsules have tons of lint. I have no idea where that lint comes from.I had LOTS of lint in tbe 1806 medal, none in the gold.
Maybe it's from the gloves the mint employees wear?
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I was just able to order a second one; I had my GF get one as well. I really like the offering and had suggested it back in 2006 here on this board for them to do in 2007, alas, 19 years later. As with others, I would have liked it in the same size/metal comp.
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@MWK said:
@Rdf said:
@ProofCollection said:
I'm pretty impressed. Less than 26 hours after order it's in my hands. Did not see any flaws. But somehow, even with a foam insert, these capsules have tons of lint. I have no idea where that lint comes from.I had LOTS of lint in tbe 1806 medal, none in the gold.
Maybe it's from the gloves the mint employees wear?
no. it is the same fibers as from the packaging
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