When will 87 topps baseball wax boxes go over $100 per box?

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  • miwlvrn
    miwlvrn Posts: 4,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ndleo said:
    What are the top junk era boxes (under $150) for "investment" purposes? My top 3 are:

    1990-91 Upper Deck French High Series Hockey - I think there are 11 HOF RCs in the set. Old school 36 pack box.

    The only caveat is that I would stay away from loose Pro Set or Hoops boxes because from what I remember those packs were easy to search and the sequence was known. I think this was an especially huge issue with 1989 Hoops, either cases or FASC to get the best chance to pull a Jordan or Robinson.

    More than that; there are 14, presently. Some caveats for that number though:

    *Some of the players on this list of HHOF 1990 UD RC's have plenty of earlier RC's issued either in foreign and/or oddball/team-issue sets, even though these cards are _also_ considered RC's.

    *There is one more guaranteed to be on the list soon enough, so that is 15 for sure: Jagr. There are also some more who might potentially make it into the HHOF one day, though that is arguable. List includes Cujo and Brind'Amour for example.

    *There are some other HHOF RC's from 1990 that just don't have a card issued by UD even though they have other ones. 1990 Score Brodeur for example.

    *There are a lot of other good RC's of players that will fall short of being in the HHOF but are still fun RC's nonetheless. For example, Richter, Nolan, Primeau, etc.

    Otherwise, the HHOF RC list from 1990 UD available in the high series packs, in order of induction:

    Fetisov
    Larionov
    Belfour
    Bure
    Sundin
    Niedermayer
    Blake
    Modano
    Fedorov
    Lindros
    Makarov
    Recchi
    Roenick
    Mogilny

  • Darin
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    @GreenSneakers said:
    @Darin, you’re a good dude for taking this one in the spirit of fun as it was intended.

    But I’m telling you, another 3 years ain’t gonna help the cause getting ‘87 to $100.

    Okay thanks…. here’s what BBCE says FASC is worth 4 years after your post.

  • Darin
    Darin Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They don’t have any non fasc so I don’t know what their price would be.

  • craig44
    craig44 Posts: 13,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    20 years ago i never thought i would see the day when 87 topps would go over $100 a box.

    there still has to be literally tons of those things out there.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 1982FootballWax
    1982FootballWax Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @craig44 said:
    20 years ago i never thought i would see the day when 87 topps would go over $100 a box.

    there still has to be literally tons of those things out there.

    $100 today was $50 20 years ago. They basically have moved with inflation

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
    Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)

  • DotStore
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    That was a good call @Darin on the '87 Topps Baseball!

  • bgr
    bgr Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    87 Topps as a hedge against inflation.

  • Darin
    Darin Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I wonder if some of the popularity has to do with 87 still being in the old time wax packs with gum. Just a cool item to hand down to kids or grandkids. After all next year will be 40 years since 87 topps came out. To me I like having a few boxes for nostalgia’s sake and a lot cheaper to buy than say 82 or 83.

  • Darin
    Darin Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BTW did you guys notice the cool items BBCE has for sale or just sold? They just sold a 78 wax tray case and have a 79 wax tray case for sale. A few other really cool items also. Are these items they had at the national that didn’t sell there?

  • tulsaboy
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    @Darin said:
    BTW did you guys notice the cool items BBCE has for sale or just sold? They just sold a 78 wax tray case and have a 79 wax tray case for sale. A few other really cool items also. Are these items they had at the national that didn’t sell there?

    They had them at the National, I believe. They have a number of wax tray items that are pretty hard to find, or at least have had them recently.

  • brad31
    brad31 Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 9, 2026 5:30PM
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    This is crazy to me. Especially when you can get a vending box for like $15. 15x36=540 cards if they have 15. Those 40 cards and 36 sticks of gum sure are expensive.

  • bgr
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    my wife said I was stupid for hauling all my cards when we moved. who's stupid now? I said. still me, but the cards are worth a lot more now.

  • 1982FootballWax
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    @bgr said:

    87 Topps as a hedge against inflation.

    Did you factor in BBCE fee + shipping costs?

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
    Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)

  • bgr
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    @1982FootballWax said:

    @bgr said:

    87 Topps as a hedge against inflation.

    Did you factor in BBCE fee + shipping costs?

    I didn't. Why?

  • 1982FootballWax
    1982FootballWax Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ^ then seems correct comparison woudl be against a non BBCE FASC box?

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
    Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)

  • bgr
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    @1982FootballWax said:
    ^ then seems correct comparison woudl be against a non BBCE FASC box?

    I might not have followed the context of your position on this topic so I don't know why it matters. I was just showing what I saw of the value vs. inflation. Are you saying it would be a little flatter?

  • BLUEJAYWAY
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    Can't wait until we get to promoting 1988 Topps baseball.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • mintonlypls
    mintonlypls Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1988 Donruss is better...

    mint_only_pls
  • craig44
    craig44 Posts: 13,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    it is a shock to my system thinking that 87 topps will be 40 next year...

    as i remember, they are the first packs I opened as a kid

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • AndyL
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    Anybody know what 87 donruss and Fleer sell for unopened. I loved the Donruss set that year.

  • waxman
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    @AndyL said:
    Anybody know what 87 donruss and Fleer sell for unopened. I loved the Donruss set that year.

    Me too for 87 Donruss. I loved those jet black borders. Ebay sales are all over the place. $90-150 for uncertified copies, and $200 for BBCE non-FASC, and $250 for BBCE FASC. I would think that Donruss and Fleer would stay ahead of Topps price wise, since I assume that there is more 87 Topps unopened out there than Fleer and Donruss.

    Adam
    collecting O-Pee-Chee (OPC) baseball cards
    also collecting US & Canadian junk silver
  • brad31
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    If 1988 Donruss gets to $100 may get to the point that I reevaluate my collection and paper may be worth more to me than cardboard. Don’t see either of those things ever happening.

  • waxman
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    @brad31 said:
    This is crazy to me. Especially when you can get a vending box for like $15. 15x36=540 cards if they have 15. Those 40 cards and 36 sticks of gum sure are expensive.

    Agreed. BBCE has a vending case for sale for $439, or the equivalent price of 4 wax boxes.

    Adam
    collecting O-Pee-Chee (OPC) baseball cards
    also collecting US & Canadian junk silver
  • 71waxforever
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    @waxman said:

    @brad31 said:
    This is crazy to me. Especially when you can get a vending box for like $15. 15x36=540 cards if they have 15. Those 40 cards and 36 sticks of gum sure are expensive.

    Agreed. BBCE has a vending case for sale for $439, or the equivalent price of 4 wax boxes.

    Cards out of wax are better than vending..

  • craig44
    craig44 Posts: 13,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @71waxforever said:

    @waxman said:

    @brad31 said:
    This is crazy to me. Especially when you can get a vending box for like $15. 15x36=540 cards if they have 15. Those 40 cards and 36 sticks of gum sure are expensive.

    Agreed. BBCE has a vending case for sale for $439, or the equivalent price of 4 wax boxes.

    Cards out of wax are better than vending..

    this. I find that the corners of some cards out of vending are not good.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44
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    @AndyL said:
    Anybody know what 87 donruss and Fleer sell for unopened. I loved the Donruss set that year.

    I was a big fan of 87 fleer. i thought i was going to make it rich with ruben sierra, greenwell, bonilla and bonds.
    I was also a big fan of the Bo Jackson that year.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • DotStore
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    Did Greenwell have a regular Fleer card that year? I remember getting them out of Topps and Donruss (and also the Donruss variation with that Red Line), but I never opened much Fleer (it was harder to find).

  • ElMagoStrikeZone
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    Long ago, I saved an 87 Donruss wax case for someday when I get ripping fever, but now it's too valuable for random hyper enthusiasm. Much of what I used to consider as bulk storage now has a purpose. Maybe.

  • craig44
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    @DotStore said:
    Did Greenwell have a regular Fleer card that year? I remember getting them out of Topps and Donruss (and also the Donruss variation with that Red Line), but I never opened much Fleer (it was harder to find).

    no he didnt, just in the update set.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44
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    I forgot to add the 87 fleer Will Clark. I think it was around 1991 or so when that was about a $30-$35 card. serious money for me at the time!

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • DotStore
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    Out of curiosity on 1987 Fleer (regular issue, not glossy and not the update set), I searched recently highest sold PSA 10's on eBay. Looks like it's neck and neck between Barry Bonds and Nolan Ryan

    I probably have a handful of Nolan Ryan's sitting in a box somewhere...

  • 1982FootballWax
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    @craig44 said:

    @AndyL said:
    Anybody know what 87 donruss and Fleer sell for unopened. I loved the Donruss set that year.

    I was a big fan of 87 fleer. i thought i was going to make it rich with ruben sierra, greenwell, bonilla and bonds.
    I was also a big fan of the Bo Jackson that year.

    Seitzer 87 Fleer was hot then as well. Dude had a nice career yet cards went nowhere. Another lesson why going after hot new rookie cards over the long term is a sucker bet. The ones that are not are outliers.

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
    Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)

  • lahmejoon
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    @brad31 said:
    If 1988 Donruss gets to $100 may get to the point that I reevaluate my collection and paper may be worth more to me than cardboard. Don’t see either of those things ever happening.

    Yeah, $100 1988 Donruss may be a sign that the end of times is upon us.

  • craig44
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    @1982FootballWax said:

    @craig44 said:

    @AndyL said:
    Anybody know what 87 donruss and Fleer sell for unopened. I loved the Donruss set that year.

    I was a big fan of 87 fleer. i thought i was going to make it rich with ruben sierra, greenwell, bonilla and bonds.
    I was also a big fan of the Bo Jackson that year.

    Seitzer 87 Fleer was hot then as well. Dude had a nice career yet cards went nowhere. Another lesson why going after hot new rookie cards over the long term is a sucker bet. The ones that are not are outliers.

    yes, thats right. he is the guy they moved Brett over to 1b for

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.