Trump $250 gold 1 ounce coin -October
Now listed on the mint website. Who will be lining up for this one? No mintage listed yet, but with a denomination of $250 I wonder if it will be priced similar to the Bell shaped coins.
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@Schmitz7 said:
Now listed on the mint website. Who will be lining up for this one? No mintage listed yet, but with a denomination of $250 I wonder if it will be priced similar to the Bell shaped coins.If it is grossly overpriced, I'll pass and look for it cheaper in the secondary market. I currently don't buy from the mint when they price gouge.
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It says it will be available November 5th.
News of this and the mystery 9/11 half must be spreading fast. I encountered a two minute waiting room at 5:19 AM.
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On a side note, for some reason this design (both the gold and clad $1 version), look refreshingly uncluttered to me. I'm not sure why that would be, since there is nothing on the edge and there is even a second year included.
Many if not most coin designs look like they struggled to fit in all the required text, but this design somehow looks simpler and cleaner, atleast to me.
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I would consider it if they did 2,026 Mintage with the price under 2x spot.
If Mintage is higher, then the price would be closer to spot depending on how high the mintage goes.1 -
Hard pass
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Hard pass with prejudice.
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Zero elegance, class, or dignity to this coin. 🤡
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Pass and from a distance 👍
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It looks like the same cartoonish design from the dollar coins.
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@JBK said:
On a side note, for some reason this design (both the gold and clad $1 version), look refreshingly uncluttered to me. I'm not sure why that would be, since there is nothing on the edge and there is even a second year included.Many if not most coin designs look like they struggled to fit in all the required text, but this design somehow looks simpler and cleaner, atleast to me.
Aesthetically it’s a clean design. Gasparro’s reverse does a lot of heavy lifting; it translated well to the dollar coin and it will to this commem. The obverse is unimaginative but, design wise, no worse than the Presidential dollar series.
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@P0CKETCHANGE said:
@JBK said:
On a side note, for some reason this design (both the gold and clad $1 version), look refreshingly uncluttered to me. I'm not sure why that would be, since there is nothing on the edge and there is even a second year included.Many if not most coin designs look like they struggled to fit in all the required text, but this design somehow looks simpler and cleaner, atleast to me.
Aesthetically it’s a clean design. Gasparro’s reverse does a lot of heavy lifting; it translated well to the dollar coin and it will to this commem. The obverse is unimaginative but, design wise, no worse than the Presidential dollar series.
The Presidential Dollar series is a low bar. It contains some of the worst designs in U.S. numismatic history.
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I had been led to believe it would be President Trump standing behind the Resolute desk with his fists on the desk.
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They're very interesting coins and the design is decent but I don't plan on buying any of the Trump $1 coins nor the $250 (had I had the money, which I don't
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@cameonut2011 said:
The Presidential Dollar series is a low bar. It contains some of the worst designs in U.S. numismatic history.I don’t disagree. Personally, I think the arrangement of the obverse elements on this coin (with the thick framing border) is an improvement over that series, but I certainly won’t be extolling its virtues.
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I’m too lazy to look it up. Can someone show me the statute that authorizes these and the dollar coins?
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I don't buy from the US Mint anymore due to the price gouging and due to the gimmicks such as the privy marks and some of the very low mintages with very quick sellouts.
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The very definition of modern crap. Pass.
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Hard pass for multiple reasons. The obverse design in terrible IMHO. Side profiles look much better on a coin than face-forward.
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Maybe a small number will have a surprise July 4th privy mark... maybe 45... or perhaps 47???
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Reverse is awesome
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@cameonut2011 said:
It looks like the same cartoonish design from the dollar coins.I for one would never give these to trick or treaters for fear that my house would get egged.
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@ms71 said:
What's the over/under on this thread going sideways before the day's out . . . . . . . .At some point. If we could trigger a few bannings, we could start having discussions on these threads.
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@Colonialcoin said:
@cameonut2011 said:
It looks like the same cartoonish design from the dollar coins.I for one would never give these to trick or treaters for fear that my house would get egged.
With all of the coinage, I may make a Trump inspired Jack-O-Latern. I might even add a scare crow that shouts random quotes from 45 and 47.
These are about the level of artistry as the coin designs:
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@illini420 said:
Maybe a small number will have a surprise July 4th privy mark... maybe 45... or perhaps 47???He would be making it overtly political if he added 45 or 47 IMHO. That's part of the reason that dating back to George Washington, every living president has refused to appear on a coin except for one (Calvin Coolidge who appeared beside Washington for the 1926 sesquicentennial commemorative half dollar issue).
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Has anyone tried stenciling U.S. coins on a pumpkin and hallowing them out for Halloween? I'd love to see a Morgan or Peace Dollar or even a Saint double eagle.
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@cameonut2011 said:
@illini420 said:
Maybe a small number will have a surprise July 4th privy mark... maybe 45... or perhaps 47???He would be making it overtly political if he added 45 or 47 IMHO. That's part of the reason that dating back to George Washington, every living president has refused to appear on a coin except for one (Calvin Coolidge who appeared beside Washington for the 1926 sesquicentennial commemorative half dollar issue).
I don't think they were offered the opportunity, so they didn't "refuse" anything.
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@illini420 said:
Maybe a small number will have a surprise July 4th privy mark... maybe 45... or perhaps 47???Count me in if it has a November 3rd privy!
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I said it'd never happen
oh man how did they pull this off?
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@JBK said:
@cameonut2011 said:
@illini420 said:
Maybe a small number will have a surprise July 4th privy mark... maybe 45... or perhaps 47???He would be making it overtly political if he added 45 or 47 IMHO. That's part of the reason that dating back to George Washington, every living president has refused to appear on a coin except for one (Calvin Coolidge who appeared beside Washington for the 1926 sesquicentennial commemorative half dollar issue).
I don't think they were offered the opportunity, so they didn't "refuse" anything.
Let's not be coy. The Secretary of Treasury and his subordinates are given enormous discretion in these matters. I don't think the current President was asked. I doubt Coolidge was asked either. I think both presidents likely had a hand in the process.
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@Survivor50 said:
I had been led to believe it would be President Trump standing behind the Resolute desk with his fists on the desk.I think it is... but there is only so much room on the coin and it would have been very small and cluttered. I think this is the crop of the image you think of.
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@Batman23 said:
@Survivor50 said:
I had been led to believe it would be President Trump standing behind the Resolute desk with his fists on the desk.I think it is... but there is only so much room on the coin and it would have been very small and cluttered. I think this is the crop of the image you think of.
This is the same obverse as the small dollar (same specs as the Native American/Presidential dollars). There's allegedly still the larger piece with the desk obverse -- last I heard they (he) wanted it to be as large as possible. Maybe this one is the compromise, or another piece with the desk still coming?
https://www.coinnews.net/2026/03/20/us-mint-2026-trump-gold-coin/
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@Alpha2814 said:
@Batman23 said:
@Survivor50 said:
I had been led to believe it would be President Trump standing behind the Resolute desk with his fists on the desk.I think it is... but there is only so much room on the coin and it would have been very small and cluttered. I think this is the crop of the image you think of.
This is the same obverse as the small dollar (same specs as the Native American/Presidential dollars). There's allegedly still the larger piece with the desk obverse -- last I heard they (he) wanted it to be as large as possible. Maybe this one is the compromise, or another piece with the desk still coming?
https://www.coinnews.net/2026/03/20/us-mint-2026-trump-gold-coin/
maybe 3" medal? certainly not a 5 oz silver puck? lol
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@Capgun said:
Hard passLike Joe Montana could throw!
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At what point does it go beyond 'oh, it's just a one off for the 250th anniversary?'
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@scotty1419 said:
At what point does it go beyond 'oh, it's just a one off for the 250th anniversary?'2027
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@Batman23 said:
@scotty1419 said:
At what point does it go beyond 'oh, it's just a one off for the 250th anniversary?'2027
lol. But seriously, 5 different coins/medals? 20?
250th anniversary set in all denominations with the same obverse?
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@PerryHall said:
I don't buy from the US Mint anymore due to the price gouging and due to the gimmicks such as the privy marks and some of the very low mintages with very quick sellouts.Yes, sadly, so. The privy marks are as gimmicky as it gets.
My interest has wained dramatically; however, i couldn't resist and purchased an "1804 Best of" set knowing in all likelihood they'll be offered much closer to melt prices in the relatively near term.
I'll leave it to others to find their pot of gold. I'm quite happy collecting classics.
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@DotStore said:
I would consider it if they did 2,026 Mintage with the price under 2x spot.
If Mintage is higher, then the price would be closer to spot depending on how high the mintage goes.Dream on. It's going to have a mintage and price comparable to other one ounce gold numismatic product. If the mintage is 2026, it will be priced like other one ounce gold items with a comparable mintage (i.e., over 4x spot). The 2026 Mint does not give away anything.
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@NJCoin said:
@DotStore said:
I would consider it if they did 2,026 Mintage with the price under 2x spot.
If Mintage is higher, then the price would be closer to spot depending on how high the mintage goes.Dream on. It's going to have a mintage and price comparable to other one ounce gold numismatic product. If the mintage is 2026, it will be priced like other one ounce gold items with a comparable mintage (i.e., over 4x spot). The 2026 Mint does not give away anything.
Edit: Mystery solved. It is already on the precious metals pricing grid. It will be $100 more than the gold buffalo. Look for it to have a comparable mintage.
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If the mint slips in some privy version then I imagine some minds here will change, just like with the non gold.
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@cameonut2011 said:
I’m too lazy to look it up. Can someone show me the statute that authorizes these and the dollar coins?The same one that authorized BOM. These are "Semiquincentennial President Donald J. Trump 2026 $1, and $250, Coins."
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We have officially hit the beanie baby stage of coin collecting. HARD pass. THKS!
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@blitzdude said:
We have officially hit the beanie baby stage of coin collecting. HARD pass. THKS!"Officially"? That first happened now? Not when they entered into licensing deals with DC Comics, or started making coins shaped like bells?
Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending this, but they Jumped the Shark, with the coins, mintages, and pricing, long before now. "Officially."
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To each their own. Personally, the superhero coins and even the BoM coins are the Beanie Babies. The domed Apollo 11 coins and Baseball HOF coins were maybe pushing it, but the colorized basketball were a little much for me. Once again, to each their own.
There have been quite a few issues this year for the 250th but I am not necessarily offended by them, even though I am not a buyer of most of them.
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@NJCoin said:
@cameonut2011 said:
I’m too lazy to look it up. Can someone show me the statute that authorizes these and the dollar coins?The same one that authorized BOM. These are "Semiquincentennial President Donald J. Trump 2026 $1, and $250, Coins."
Well it's funny you bring that up. The legislation that authorized Semiquincentennial coinage spoke of a quarter, half dollar, and dollar coins. It said nothing about a $250. As a general rule Congress, not the executive branch, determines the denominations of this nation's coinage. I am aware of only one statutory provision that grants discretion to the Secretary of Treasury and that is for platinum coins, not gold coins. 31 U.S.C. 5112 (k). I think this coin is likely illegal, but I was hoping someone could pinpoint that exact legal citation cited by the Secretary of Treasury in authorizing a gold $250.
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@cameonut2011 said:
@NJCoin said:
@cameonut2011 said:
I’m too lazy to look it up. Can someone show me the statute that authorizes these and the dollar coins?The same one that authorized BOM. These are "Semiquincentennial President Donald J. Trump 2026 $1, and $250, Coins."
Well it's funny you bring that up. The legislation that authorized Semiquincentennial coinage spoke of a quarter, half dollar, and dollar coins. It said nothing about a $250. As a general rule Congress, not the executive branch, determines the denominations of this nation's coinage. I am aware of only one statutory provision that grants discretion to the Secretary of Treasury and that is for platinum coins, not gold coins. 31 U.S.C. 5112 (k). I think this coin is likely illegal, but I was hoping someone could pinpoint that exact legal citation cited by the Secretary of Treasury in authorizing a gold $250.
This has been discussed often enough over the years that it should not be a surprise. The legislation that authorized .999 fine bullion gold also gave the Secretary of the Treasury the authority to select designs and face values.
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@JBK said:
@cameonut2011 said:
@NJCoin said:
@cameonut2011 said:
I’m too lazy to look it up. Can someone show me the statute that authorizes these and the dollar coins?The same one that authorized BOM. These are "Semiquincentennial President Donald J. Trump 2026 $1, and $250, Coins."
Well it's funny you bring that up. The legislation that authorized Semiquincentennial coinage spoke of a quarter, half dollar, and dollar coins. It said nothing about a $250. As a general rule Congress, not the executive branch, determines the denominations of this nation's coinage. I am aware of only one statutory provision that grants discretion to the Secretary of Treasury and that is for platinum coins, not gold coins. 31 U.S.C. 5112 (k). I think this coin is likely illegal, but I was hoping someone could pinpoint that exact legal citation cited by the Secretary of Treasury in authorizing a gold $250.
This has been discussed often enough over the years that it should not be a surprise. The legislation that authorized .999 fine bullion gold also gave the Secretary of the Treasury the authority to select designs and face values.
Nope. That can't be it.
Gold Bullion Coin Act of 1985 (Public Law 99-185), codified as 31 U.S.C. 5112 (a)(7)-(10) and 31 U.S.C. 5112(i) authorizes specific denominations, the greatest of which is $50.
American Gold Bullion Coins (Public Law 109-145), codified as 31 U.S.C. 5112 (q) authorizes specific denominations, the greatest of which is $50.
The only section I can find that would allow the Secretary of Treasury to use a custom denomination would be 31 USC 5112 (k) which provides "[t]he Secretary may mint and issue platinum bullion coins and proof platinum coins in accordance with such specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time." There is no parallel provisions for gold coins.
If this is all the government has, then the coins are illegal. The Secretary could absolutely strike a $250 coin, but it would have to be platinum. There is no Congressional authorization for a $250 gold coin.
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I'm open the the possibility of there being some other provision out there, but so far every major coin design program has been codified in 31 U.S.C. 5112. There is no authorization in that statute for a $250 gold coin, the Semiquincentennial notwithstanding.
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