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Finally getting around to getting some older coins graded - 1805 50c
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I am finally getting around to getting a few of my better older coins graded, that I got way back when I was just starting collecting as a kid. I believe I got this 1805 50c from my grandfather decades ago probably when I was pre-teen. He was not that much of a collector, so I dont know the details behind this acquirement.
I just got the grade = XF details 92 cleaned. OUCH!
I'm not that familiar with details coins. Is this worth anything at all? How significant of a drop from the XF40 value can I reasonably expect?
The price guide for XF40 is $2650. At 30 its $1550. Is it reasonably anywhere in that range? Interested in your (experts) input and advice.
Thx.
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Very nice coin! I’m no expert but I think details if it’s higher end XF in terms of remaining detail you’d be looking at maybe 30 pricing, 25 for a lower-end XF.
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I would think half, maybe less in some cases. In this case, you've got cleaning which appears minor but graffiti in a major focal area
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OK, it doesnt seem to be a total loss. It has some value to me (19 century coin, from gramps, in otherwise decent shape).
I didnt think to google it ... Thx.
Here are a few sales of XF Details, Cleaned examples:
$2257 for this one, but don't get excited as it was an aberration:
https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/1805-50c-o-112-t-2-r2-obverse-cleaned-ngc-details-xf-mintage-211-722/a/1390-7207.s
I think the two sales below probably give a good indication of fair market value.
$1320 for this one: https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/1805-50c-o-112-t-2-r2-cleaned-pcgs-genuine-xf-details-mintage-211-722/a/60467-51060.s
$1380 for this one:
https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/1805-50c-o-112-t-2-r2-cleaned-pcgs-genuine-xf-details-mintage-211-722/a/60467-51060.s
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I like the OP's half regardless of the grade/problem(s).
I think in a fair auction such as GC he will be pleasantly surprised at the ending price.
The value of this hobby is the hobby, not the value.
A lot of DB halves are cleaned, but as long as it has decent nice eye appeal they can command strong money relative to their details grade. For example, I paid $3k for a F details 1802 DBH that was obviously cleaned, but has awesome peripheral album toning.
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The issue with your coin is not so much the cleaning - based on the pics I think it has solid eye appeal, but rather the X carved into liberty’s neck. The coin should grade details graffiti; and unfortunately the market is not as forgiving for this as compared to a light cleaning.
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It’s unfortunate, b/c I like the look of that coin, but can’t get past the X. My opinion is that you have a $1k - $1.2k coin to the right buyer.
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Hope you’re having fun getting back in the hobby. The early BH series is an awesome series to collect, cheers!
I think it might have a shot at grading, if not for the x carved into her neck.
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Thx for the input. Funny thing, I never noticed the X on the neck before, may not have seen it under good lighting. I'll have to check when I get it back. Maybe its not carved, just some ... darker lines. Maybe wishful thinking, but I think I would've noticed that at least. I'll see.
I just got it back. Here's the actual coin, darker than the TVs so I can see why I missed any markings. If I get the light right I can kinda make it out on the neck, but not too bad.
I suppose if I ever send it to auction I can include a glove that doesnt fit and a Monopoly Get Out of Jail Free card. That should fetch something.
(...Too soon?)
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Oh yeah - I got the Red PCGS box with this order. (different topic, I know)
Your half dollar appears to be Overton 113/Tompkins T-1. Rarity 6 in Parsley, Rarity 4+ in Tompkins.
ID via reverse - the position of tip of leaf is in-between the R&I.
Obviously a shame over the cleaning and graffiti - but your half dollar is rare.
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Before I saw your post, I arrived at the same conclusions.
And I like the coin. Not a high-end example. But I've got several "details" bust half dollars that are keepers for their rarity.
BTW, does anyone know when the next Tompkins book (volume 2 of 4) is projected for release? I'd love to get on the pre-order list.
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I would guess the OP coin to be worth at least $1500 even with the issues.
Official PCGS account of:
www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com
Thanks for the details, much appreciated. I had to google the Overton/Tompkins input ... I got some reading to do.
I appreciate owning a coin from when the country was only 29 years young.
I sent my other 19th century / early 20th in for grading - still waiting (7/1, still processing - economy). The only older coin I have is an 1804 1/2 cent, NOT in very good condition.