Pete Crow-Armstrong
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I read an article on yahoo last night that said Ohtani is clearly the MVP. The guys argument was that offensively Shohei and PCA are pretty close which I guess is true although PCA has a lot more stolen bases. Then the author says since Ohtani has pitched 14 games at a very high level he’s the clear MVP. He never mentioned defense as though that counts for nothing. Ohtani never plays defense except at pitcher for a few games. PCA plays gold glove defense in CF!
To me right now PCA is the MVP although that could change since there is about 7 weeks or so left in the regular season.
I just can’t believe anyone writing an article on yahoo is so clueless that he doesn’t even mention defense.0 -
If you’re not watching PCA regularly you’re missing out. I watch every game. Except today. Verizon outage killed my vibe. We can’t even get an Amazon delivery. 😭
Not only is PCA challenging Shohei for the title of MVP, he’s doing so by delivering in key moments of games, and in every way possible. If there was a more descriptive term for him than 5-tool guy, it would be his alone. I enjoyed the year Javy Baez went toe-to-toe with Christian Yelich for the honors. This seems like one of those years with 2 amazing guys playing “Who can top this”? PCA will be in the game, every play, every day.
I’m glad this thread got a life. 😉
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PCA is doing well his BA is only 10 points or so lower than Ohtanhi, HR and RBI are similar as well
Hope he keeps going in the right direction for Cubs fans
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@Darin said:
I read an article on yahoo last night that said Ohtani is clearly the MVP. The guys argument was that offensively Shohei and PCA are pretty close which I guess is true although PCA has a lot more stolen bases. Then the author says since Ohtani has pitched 14 games at a very high level he’s the clear MVP. He never mentioned defense as though that counts for nothing. Ohtani never plays defense except at pitcher for a few games. PCA plays gold glove defense in CF!
To me right now PCA is the MVP although that could change since there is about 7 weeks or so left in the regular season.
I just can’t believe anyone writing an article on yahoo is so clueless that he doesn’t even mention defense.Really pretty simple, put Ohtani in CF for the fly ball pitching staff Cubs, Ohtani catches 98% of the fly ball outs that PCA has.....put PCA on the mound for 14 starts and 85 IP for LA and this exercise is over.
PCA also had a few miscues that the defensive measures don't even account for, like the missed routine fly ball that turned into a home run, evening out the few extreme plays he got to that Ohtani 'may' have not gotten to if playing CF for them.
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@1948_Swell_Robinson said:
@Darin said:
I read an article on yahoo last night that said Ohtani is clearly the MVP. The guys argument was that offensively Shohei and PCA are pretty close which I guess is true although PCA has a lot more stolen bases. Then the author says since Ohtani has pitched 14 games at a very high level he’s the clear MVP. He never mentioned defense as though that counts for nothing. Ohtani never plays defense except at pitcher for a few games. PCA plays gold glove defense in CF!
To me right now PCA is the MVP although that could change since there is about 7 weeks or so left in the regular season.
I just can’t believe anyone writing an article on yahoo is so clueless that he doesn’t even mention defense.Really pretty simple, put Ohtani in CF for the fly ball pitching staff Cubs, Ohtani catches 98% of the fly ball outs that PCA has.....put PCA on the mound for 14 starts and 85 IP for LA and this exercise is over.
PCA also had a few miscues that the defensive measures don't even account for, like the missed routine fly ball that turned into a home run, evening out the few extreme plays he got to that Ohtani 'may' have not gotten to if playing CF for them.
Okay put Shohei in CF then. Oh wait…. he sits on the bench when his team is on defense. I’m not talking about what would happen in la la land. Just the facts please. Ohtani isn’t even pitching now… and you’re seriously talking about a single play where PCA lost a ball in the sun. 🤣
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@1948_Swell_Robinson said:
@Darin said:
I read an article on yahoo last night that said Ohtani is clearly the MVP. The guys argument was that offensively Shohei and PCA are pretty close which I guess is true although PCA has a lot more stolen bases. Then the author says since Ohtani has pitched 14 games at a very high level he’s the clear MVP. He never mentioned defense as though that counts for nothing. Ohtani never plays defense except at pitcher for a few games. PCA plays gold glove defense in CF!
To me right now PCA is the MVP although that could change since there is about 7 weeks or so left in the regular season.
I just can’t believe anyone writing an article on yahoo is so clueless that he doesn’t even mention defense.Really pretty simple, put Ohtani in CF for the fly ball pitching staff Cubs, Ohtani catches 98% of the fly ball outs that PCA has.....put PCA on the mound for 14 starts and 85 IP for LA and this exercise is over.
PCA also had a few miscues that the defensive measures don't even account for, like the missed routine fly ball that turned into a home run, evening out the few extreme plays he got to that Ohtani 'may' have not gotten to if playing CF for them.
This argument is the silliest yet. LMAO. There's no comparison. They do different things very well. To suggest that Ohtani catch fly balls and PCA pitch is ridiculous. Ohtani would not get to a lot of those fly balls. Let's stick to the facts, ok? Each of them is having an incredible season. PCA hasn't turned any fly balls into home runs. Where did that come from? He's made a few crappy errors. Hell hath come whenever he f's up cuz everybody wants to jump on the bandwagon to cut him down. How many garbage breaking balls does Ohtani swing at and miss? Measure the facts. They are probably DEAD EVEN right now in the MVP race and the final 6 weeks of the season should be fun to watch.
By the way, when PCA was a junior baseball star traveling around the country with so many other current baseball stars like Skenes, Witt Jr., etc. guess what he did? He was a pitcher!
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It’s pretty funny 48swell says Shohei would catch 98% of the balls PCA catches. How does anyone know that? Ohtani has played 8 innings in the outfield for his career. He must not be too good in the outfield when he never starts in the outfield and is never a defensive replacement when an outfielder comes out of the game.
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@Darin said:
It’s pretty funny 48swell says Shohei would catch 98% of the balls PCA catches. How does anyone know that? Ohtani has played 8 innings in the outfield for his career. He must not be too good in the outfield when he never starts in the outfield and is never a defensive replacement when an outfielder comes out of the game.Add to that the unwritten metric of PCA playing half of his games at Wrigley Field, which is a huge challenge for any outfielder. I've seen him make several catches this season that nobody else even comes close.
I think the best part of all this is how each player shows qualities of leadership, originating from the leadoff position in the batting order. Ohtani was already anointed and placed in that spot long ago. PCA needed a place to thrive and his manager decided being the first guy to hit would do it. He was right.
Again, all consideration now has to play out for the rest of the season. As far as I'm concerned they're neck and neck for MVP. Go PCA Go!
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I love PCA as a player but the simple fact is that Othani also pitches and is a two way player. No defensive differences is going to account for the difference with an elite hitter whose also a pitcher and elite at bot. Othani would need to get hurt to give anyone else a chance and hopefully he doesnt
Fire AJ Preller
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@Basebal21 said:
I love PCA as a player but the simple fact is that Othani also pitches and is a two way player. No defensive differences is going to account for the difference with an elite hitter whose also a pitcher and elite at bot. Othani would need to get hurt to give anyone else a chance and hopefully he doesntOkay…. done. Ohtani got hurt and hasn’t pitched in over a month. I thought that news was pretty mainstream and you had probably heard it by now.
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@Darin said:
@Basebal21 said:
I love PCA as a player but the simple fact is that Othani also pitches and is a two way player. No defensive differences is going to account for the difference with an elite hitter whose also a pitcher and elite at bot. Othani would need to get hurt to give anyone else a chance and hopefully he doesntOkay…. done. Ohtani got hurt and hasn’t pitched in over a month. I thought that news was pretty mainstream and you had probably heard it by now.
Im aware of the fact that hes been sidelined from pitching for soreness. Hes still hitting and he starting working throwing progressions up again if you hadnt seen that . Theyre being cautious as they should be since they dont need him pitching until the playoff minus a meltdown. Doesnt change what hes already done either way and no other player is a two way player
Fire AJ Preller
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BOOM 💥 😃
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@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
BOOM 💥 😃
30/30 for the 2nd consecutive year!
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and he has matched Ohtani pitch for pitch so far in August!
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He's a pretty good DH now, too. Take that Shohei
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A las tres!!! 😁
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em vee pee
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own any of his cardboard ?
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@galaxy27 said:
@ElMagoStrikeZoneown any of his cardboard ?
Ah the temptation, for I have not. Perhaps I’ll find a few someday. The vintage market always beckons louder.
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last year at the end of the day on Aug 29th the Cubs were 6.5 games back. Mago - did you see that interview Murph did where he talked about the importance of playing in the now? when the Brewers lost Stearns and Counsell I was more than a little concerned but the culture in that org. runs deep.
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@bgr said:
last year at the end of the day on Aug 29th the Cubs were 6.5 games back. Mago - did you see that interview Murph did where he talked about the importance of playing in the now? when the Brewers lost Stearns and Counsell I was more than a little concerned but the culture in that org. runs deep.Do or die starting Monday huh? I know Murph ain't taking it lightly. He wants to bury those guys. Not only would the Cubs need to win to make up ground, but not to lose and fall down the ranks for the wild card. The culture of Milwaukee and the confidence they have will be tough to overcome. Anything positive that happens for the Cubbies from here on is gonna require some fortitude and probably some luck. And homers. Lots and lots of them.
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@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
@bgr said:
last year at the end of the day on Aug 29th the Cubs were 6.5 games back. Mago - did you see that interview Murph did where he talked about the importance of playing in the now? when the Brewers lost Stearns and Counsell I was more than a little concerned but the culture in that org. runs deep.Do or die starting Monday huh? I know Murph ain't taking it lightly. He wants to bury those guys. Not only would the Cubs need to win to make up ground, but not to lose and fall down the ranks for the wild card. The culture of Milwaukee and the confidence they have will be tough to overcome. Anything positive that happens for the Cubbies from here on is gonna require some fortitude and probably some luck. And homers. Lots and lots of them.

may the winds be blowing in from left when the cubs are at the plate.
gonna be nice to see our flag on top!
We need to catch a game sometime. You get Harrison, Gasser, Miz, and Henderson. I don't mean to brag but wow.
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Bring it on. We got a fierce MVP candidate on fire.
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Another night of PCA homers and unreliable pitching. At this point, it's obvious the Cubs ain't going nowhere else but Wild Card Land, just where will they play? At home? Philly? Arizona? San Diego? Hell?

As so many past MLB managers have mused, you just gotta get in. Anything can happen. And it will.
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today is going slowly for some reason...
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Lucky me….. Cubs vs. Brewers this evening and this is the only game I can get. MLB network doesn’t even have a game tonight. 😡 Even Harrison Ford on Gunsmoke is ticked off about it.

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Ouch. I’m not saying that’s a game that turns on a couple pitches because Harrison just couldn’t get anything by them…. Those were some annoyingly good ABs.
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@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
And homers. Lots and lots of them. 😂
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The main issue for PCA is that Vaughn also pitches. With Ohtani shut down 2-way star Andrew Vaughn now is challenging Pete!
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@bgr said:
The main issue for PCA is that Vaughn also pitches. With Ohtani shut down 2-way star Andrew Vaughn now is challenging Pete!😵💫
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We laugh to hide the tears. When Bauers botched that play at first you probably saw Murphys face on the broadcast. Yup. One of those nights.
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They emptied the tank of bad mojo. Boyd vs Gasser tomorrow. New day new game. 😉
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If that’s how they hit lefties. Cue taps.
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That was…..unpleasant. 😒
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Stuck with Vaughn against Palencia.
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The Cubs
MLB Leaders of:
A) Home Runs - YAY!
b) Home Runs Allowed - BOOOOO!!!!
C) Roller coaster rides - HELLLLLPPPPP!!!!!
Miz tomorrow. I need antacids.
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a beautiful perk that t-mobile offers is the mlb package for free. there's a very small window before the season starts to accept, and this year i just so happened to be awake and i pounced. i caught Chi-Mil last night as a result.
did you guys watch it?
in the 3rd or 4th inning a Brewer hit a grounder to short that was bang-bang at first. initially ruled safe, but it was close enough for Counsell's council to review it. it was very tight, but i'm convinced he was out. the guys calling the game concurred. they showed the replay multiple times. for whatever reason, Counsell didn't pull the trigger and it damn near caused the flood gates to open. (they later opened anyway.) i couldn't make heads or tails of that decision.
curious as to what you guys think, if you saw it.
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There’s been a few plays this season which caused me to wonder if they should have asked for a review. It happens to all teams. The hesitance happens if the coaches aren’t positive they’ll get a call reversed and it could be early in the game. They wouldn’t want to lose a challenge they might need later. They only get a few seconds to decide. It’s like being on a rapid fire game show. Get it wrong and you’re screwed.
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Chourio top of the 4th. Swanson was playing deep. it was close and that early it's probably not a challenge you're going after unless it's definitive. I'm just guessing at the reasoning.
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I thought that ball down the line by Taylor was gonna be the back-breaker. Coming back in a game like that is bigger sometimes than winning 3 easy games in a row. Stacking series is what the Brewers do well, but Harrison is one of those guys Milwaukee needs in the post-season and he's been a little shaky both on the road and against righty-heavy lineups.
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Just please Pete don’t challenge strike 3 when it carves a hole in the zone. 😂
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Guess I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
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Could be a classic. Or a train wreck. 🥺
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the Brew Crew are a resilient bunch
second night in a row they've been punched in the mouth, then got up off the deck and opened a can
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No surprise. They are the best team in MLB, no question.
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@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
No surprise. They are the best team in MLB, no question.Did you like the suicide squeeze?
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@bgr said:
@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
No surprise. They are the best team in MLB, no question.Did you like the suicide squeeze?
I like smart, fundamental baseball. When the opponent executes it well against my guys, I just shake my head and wonder why little ball rarely gets played anymore. Good for them. That's how to win games.
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What I hate about baseball these days, and this could be Royals specific, is how often they fail to get a runner home from third base with less than two outs. I’ve seen enough of KC to know they’re terrible at it, they like to strike out in those situations.
The Brewers are probably much better at it, I can’t say since I haven’t seen many of their games.0 -
@Darin said:
What I hate about baseball these days, and this could be Royals specific, is how often they fail to get a runner home from third base with less than two outs. I’ve seen enough of KC to know they’re terrible at it, they like to strike out in those situations.
The Brewers are probably much better at it, I can’t say since I haven’t seen many of their games.Cubs problem most of the year. League leaders in runners on base, near bottom knocking them in. Milwaukee knows the drill.
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Cubbies have to have some pitching coming back here soon.
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