Real or fake California fractional gold
From my mother-in-laws estate. Chain and holder are 14k. I suspect coin is not real, but wanted more opinions.
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Not a real coin.
Some are made of low grade gold. Have it tested
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there are plated junk stuff and there are "tribute" pieces that are gold but not period pieces. these need expert opinions.
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Absolutely not a genuine California fractional. It has every appearance of being quite modern.
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"if it has a bear, beware"
https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/256987-need-help-with-a-14-california-gold-with-bear-is-it-real/
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No dollar or dol, or denomination beyond 1/2 is also a tell. Token.
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The girlfriend would like that
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all of the above responses are correct.
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Right - the Bear gives it away..............
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@calgolddiver said:
all of the above responses are correct.does it have gold content?
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@MsMorrisine said:
@calgolddiver said:
all of the above responses are correct.does it have gold content?
Most replicas are brass with some being gold plated. Most were made in the 1960's and were backdated to the goldrush era. Check out PCGS Coin Facts where there is a section listing all the known genuine California small denomination gold coins by BG (Breen-Gillio) number. They show pics of each genuine coin and if your coin isn't shown, it probably isn't a real coin.
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By itself, a bear is not the definitive identifier for genuine 'charm' pieces. Those with a bear are not going to be 'coins', but they may be gold 'charms or tokens' . As such, they can have decent value. Even though this one may be priced a bit high, but as a 66, maybe not.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356954347952?_skw=cal+gold+charm&itmmeta=01KZA7HSVE9CMBFBE0EABDRRXG&hash=item531c2319b0:g:Yc4AAOSwx7BoMLGs&itmprp=enc:AQALAAAA8GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xD/1YJpqHbvm/iooGGpdPVLegfvYOpElwLCtyxJustEesp3YZMl5+E98fY981dE80tL7al3v0dQpZpYEG9rmvwZbekEpFSAUkfvMBZBjjfnTe6B3bKNo8CbrLKnzKa3VeOLy1N5THJPfatSrlFU/pUrT/mZ82Mz5ia6V5deCWeSP4DsCbz9FajRoSTBJK4oDb5heaLEJhyq80h4rqEDl6Lod3M5bIHOR2D3HIhG39w8zemaQbhmtAJy+YS4w+++lKicU55EmKExjGxEFPVBAawzLk0n/4UukRH/4oSn3lyxqg==|tkp:Bk9SR_Sdx8f6Zw0 -
@PerryHall said:
@MsMorrisine said:
@calgolddiver said:
all of the above responses are correct.does it have gold content?
Most replicas are brass with some being gold plated. Most were made in the 1960's and were backdated to the goldrush era. Check out PCGS Coin Facts where there is a section listing all the known genuine California small denomination gold coins by BG (Breen-Gillio) number. They show pics of each genuine coin and if your coin isn't shown, it probably isn't a real coin.
It’s a pretty long list.
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between the years of the territorial gold and the 60s plate junk are gold content "tribute" pieces. you need an expert here
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@thebeav said:
By itself, a bear is not the definitive identifier for genuine 'charm' pieces. Those with a bear are not going to be 'coins', but they may be gold 'charms or tokens' . As such, they can have decent value. Even though this one may be priced a bit high, but as a 66, maybe not.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356954347952?_skw=cal+gold+charm&itmmeta=01KZA7HSVE9CMBFBE0EABDRRXG&hash=item531c2319b0:g:Yc4AAOSwx7BoMLGs&itmprp=enc:AQALAAAA8GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xD/1YJpqHbvm/iooGGpdPVLegfvYOpElwLCtyxJustEesp3YZMl5+E98fY981dE80tL7al3v0dQpZpYEG9rmvwZbekEpFSAUkfvMBZBjjfnTe6B3bKNo8CbrLKnzKa3VeOLy1N5THJPfatSrlFU/pUrT/mZ82Mz5ia6V5deCWeSP4DsCbz9FajRoSTBJK4oDb5heaLEJhyq80h4rqEDl6Lod3M5bIHOR2D3HIhG39w8zemaQbhmtAJy+YS4w+++lKicU55EmKExjGxEFPVBAawzLk0n/4UukRH/4oSn3lyxqg==|tkp:Bk9SR_Sdx8f6ZwPersonally I would never consider this type of token to add to my collection (I focus on BG numbers only) ... to each their own. Interesting example though.
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