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Mint to display its 11 1933 Double Eagles in Pittsburg at the ANA WFoM

Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 28, 2026 11:07AM in U.S. Coin Forum

The Mint announced today that it will have a display with all 11 of its 1933 Double Eagles at that ANA World’s Fair of Money in Pittsburgh on August 28. If you go, take some pictures and post them!

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    JimWJimW Posts: 612 ✭✭✭✭

    How many have Langbord provenance?

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where'd that #12 come into play? I knew of 11

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,840 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2026 8:11PM

    @JimW said:
    How many have Langbord provenance?

    Presumably all of them.

    Edited to correct: There were 10 Langbord coins. It appears that the 11th one was forfeited to the government by its owner after the Langbord trial.

    “The Mint’s 11th 1933 Double Eagle, displayed here for the first time with the Mint’s other 10 specimens, was voluntarily and unconditionally surrendered to the government following the 2011 jury trial by a private citizen who acquired the coin on the open market and, to the government’s knowledge, was unaware at the time that private ownership of the piece was unlawful. Like all other 1933 Double Eagles recovered by the United States since 1944, this specimen traces its provenance to that same Philadelphia jeweler”

    See here: https://www.usmint.gov/news/press-releases/united-states-mint-to-display-11-1933-double-eagle-gold-coins-together-for-the-first-time?srsltid=AfmBOooWHWyeLmJd675Hef9SDm9o59tDQ-1c-Zoxdcd898LW3r96tBg3

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2026 2:09PM

    .

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @JimW said:
    How many have Langbord provenance?

    Presumably of them.

    All?

    Fixed, thank you.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If i were there of course I'd go look at them, but I'd still have the feeling that it was ill gotten gains by the government. I guess it's better than melting them down. :/

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    TypekatTypekat Posts: 685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Are they shipping them there by UPS?

    Oh, no! That would just not be fitting!
    I’m guessing a squad of Federal Marshalls in a convoy of black SUVs, 24-hour in-person guardianship of the booty, making a loooong weekend of it with tons of overtime for all, and who knows what else

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    Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Typekat said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Are they shipping them there by UPS?

    Oh, no! That would just not be fitting!
    I’m guessing a squad of Federal Marshalls in a convoy of black SUVs, 24-hour in-person guardianship of the booty, making a loooong weekend of it with tons of overtime for all, and who knows what else

    But just in case anyone happens upon the "lost" case, email me -- we'll talk, I can go 10-20% over melt. :o

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Should make for an interesting auction!

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Typekat said:
    Boy, the Feds sure like showing off the treasures they stole from the Langbords.
    All I can think of is the enormous costs of time, effort and money the US Treasury has spent investigating, confiscating, litigating, and displaying these coins over the past 80 years or so.

    Doesn’t seem right somehow, but glad they are sharing, I guess.

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    TypekatTypekat Posts: 685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    Should make for an interesting auction!

    That they should! But…the owner of the ‘monetized’ 1933 was promised that can’t happen.

    Better to donate one to the Smithsonian, and melt the rest.
    Then they could sell limited mintage cents coated with the gold from these famous rarities! Flip this endless federal boondoggle into a money making deal for the Treasury!
    Everybody’s happy!

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    mach19mach19 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭✭

    I can't wait to see pictures !

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    TomthemailcarrierTomthemailcarrier Posts: 793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:
    I’m skipping the pirate booty.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:
    Where'd that #12 come into play? I knew of 11

    What #12 are you talking about. THE OP mentioned 11.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @johnny9434 said:
    Where'd that #12 come into play? I knew of 11

    What #12 are you talking about. THE OP mentioned 11.

    Perhaps he originally wrote 12, but edited it?

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Isint there 12 1933 double double eagles listed? Unless there was a mistake somewhere

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    usararecoinsusararecoins Posts: 50 ✭✭✭

    I think there should be a "guess the grade" contest on them. :wink:

    United States Mint to Display 11 1933 Double Eagle Gold Coins Together for the First Time
    July 28, 2026
    WASHINGTON, July 28, 2026 — United States Mint (Mint) Director Paul Hollis today announced that the Mint will display all 11 of its 1933 Double Eagle gold coins together for the first time at the upcoming American Numismatic Association World’s Fair of Money in Pittsburgh on August 28.

    “Mint history is American history,” said Director Hollis. “As America celebrates its Semiquincentennial, we reflect on our Nation’s storied past. These 11 coins were minted during a time of hardship and strife, yet nearly a century later, they endure as treasured emblems of growth, resilience, and opportunity.”

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fascinating really…Because unless the US government decides to sell them at some point (highly unlikely) they are completely worthless…
    Likely 400 million dollars worth of numismatics…

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    humanssuckhumanssuck Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2windy2fish said:
    Fascinating really…Because unless the US government decides to sell them at some point (highly unlikely) they are completely worthless…
    Likely 400 million dollars worth of numismatics…

    If they were sold, they wouldnt bring anywhere near that. You can't take a sale price for a 1 of 1 only legal one of its kind coin and assume 11 more becoming legal would sell at the same price. They would still be highly prized, but you'd likely be looking at closer to 30 - 40 million total for all 11, not each.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @humanssuck said:

    @2windy2fish said:
    Fascinating really…Because unless the US government decides to sell them at some point (highly unlikely) they are completely worthless…
    Likely 400 million dollars worth of numismatics…

    If they were sold, they wouldnt bring anywhere near that. You can't take a sale price for a 1 of 1 only legal one of its kind coin and assume 11 more becoming legal would sell at the same price. They would still be highly prized, but you'd likely be looking at closer to 30 - 40 million total for all 11, not each.

    True. They also aren't completely worthless now. They are worth melt!

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    scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭✭

    It sounds like there's an interesting unspoken story around the additional example that was forfeited after the auction???

    Was it possibly purchased from the same source? If that was me, it'd be very hard to simply cede that to the gov, even after the legal loss...

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scotty1419 said:
    It sounds like there's an interesting unspoken story around the additional example that was forfeited after the auction???

    Was it possibly purchased from the same source? If that was me, it'd be very hard to simply cede that to the gov, even after the legal loss...

    The coin was almost certainly purchased from one of the dealers who bought it from Izzy Switt or in a resale by one of those dealers. I haven’t read about a single example that didn’t originate through Switt.

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    CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Attending the show; I’ll take pics & post here.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:
    Isint there 12 1933 double double eagles listed? Unless there was a mistake somewhere

    There are 14 known. The Smithsonian has the two originally given to it in 1933, there is the privately held Farouk Specimen, the Mint seized 10 from the Langbord Family and one other was voluntarily surrendered to the Mint.

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    fathomfathom Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @humanssuck said:

    @2windy2fish said:
    Fascinating really…Because unless the US government decides to sell them at some point (highly unlikely) they are completely worthless…
    Likely 400 million dollars worth of numismatics…

    If they were sold, they wouldnt bring anywhere near that. You can't take a sale price for a 1 of 1 only legal one of its kind coin and assume 11 more becoming legal would sell at the same price. They would still be highly prized, but you'd likely be looking at closer to 30 - 40 million total for all 11, not each.

    Somebody get to the Prez:

    "I hereby monetize the 1933 Double Eagles"
    Boom, done.

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have the experts ever attempted a visual grade for the coins? And will the coins be displayed so one can see the reverses as well? Like a flip over option.

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    WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    Have the experts ever attempted a visual grade for the coins? And will the coins be displayed so one can see the reverses as well? Like a flip over option.

    Knew this had been discussed before. Forgot it was way back in 2009.

    The 10 1933 $20 gold coins graded

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/748415/the-10-1933-20-gold-coins-graded/p1

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WinLoseWin said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    Have the experts ever attempted a visual grade for the coins? And will the coins be displayed so one can see the reverses as well? Like a flip over option.

    Knew this had been discussed before. Forgot it was way back in 2009.

    The 10 1933 $20 gold coins graded

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/748415/the-10-1933-20-gold-coins-graded/p1

    Thanks. Before my time here.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll have to see if I can park my photo gear in front of them and get a decent picture. I was able to do this with the Smithsonian's 1933 several years ago, but only the obverse.

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