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Jefferson nickel collectors - What do you think the market value of a MS66FS 1943/2 DDO FS-101 is?

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

This coin (which looks much better in hand than it does in the True View photo).

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    ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well the PCGS pop is 51 with 19 better and PCGS guide price is $2650. Greysheet's at $950. I reckon the GS value is more accurate, especially given that there are enough of them that they are attainable. October 28, 2025 an NGC version sold for $810 so a PCGS nowadays should bring $900-1000 retail I figure.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope it does look better than the TV, because the photo does not show it as MS66 or as FS.

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    ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    I hope it does look better than the TV, because the photo does not show it as MS66 or as FS.

    Any recent Trueview has to be given a lot of grace as they rarely present a coin in a favorable manner anymore.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ProofCollection said:

    @coinbuf said:
    I hope it does look better than the TV, because the photo does not show it as MS66 or as FS.

    Any recent Trueview has to be given a lot of grace as they rarely present a coin in a favorable manner anymore.

    How do you know it is a newer TV? I see no prongs around the rim.

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    ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @ProofCollection said:

    @coinbuf said:
    I hope it does look better than the TV, because the photo does not show it as MS66 or as FS.

    Any recent Trueview has to be given a lot of grace as they rarely present a coin in a favorable manner anymore.

    How do you know it is a newer TV? I see no prongs around the rim.

    I hope there's no prongs. PCGS TVs are not taken in slab except for a small window a few years ago.
    I don't know for sure but I can tell by the photography style. I can't explain it. But in general, new TVs are just harsh-looking, like this photo.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ProofCollection said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @ProofCollection said:

    @coinbuf said:
    I hope it does look better than the TV, because the photo does not show it as MS66 or as FS.

    Any recent Trueview has to be given a lot of grace as they rarely present a coin in a favorable manner anymore.

    How do you know it is a newer TV? I see no prongs around the rim.

    I hope there's no prongs. PCGS TVs are not taken in slab except for a small window a few years ago.
    I don't know for sure but I can tell by the photography style. I can't explain it. But in general, new TVs are just harsh-looking, like this photo.

    True about the prongs unless it was taken in the holder, and yes current TV's are generally very poor. But without seeing the actual (not these cropped photos) TV or knowing the cert we cannot say for sure.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Cert # is 44883298.

    The True View is terrible. I will take and post cell phone photos of the coin that hopefully will show it better.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cell phone photos attached.


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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sold a PCGS MS66 no FS example for 67FS money, $2500 as 3-4 others at a major Chicago show agreed the coin graded higher and with full steps. Replaced that date/variety 3 1/2 years ago with an AU details graded coin for $215. The coin clearly does not have AU details and displays semi PL to PL fields with a VEDS strike. Had to take my own pics and video of the coin as there were no TV.
    Sometimes one can assess a coin by it's TV, other times not so easy. Thank God for return policies! :)
    Can we expect some diy photos of your coin?

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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    I hope it does look better than the TV, because the photo does not show it as MS66 or as FS.

    The profile does look pretty roughed up for a 66 grade. Usually something minor would keep it out of the 67 range. But Jefferson's profile needs to be cleaner than what the TV shows! Maybe the fields which look SPL to PL to me gave it a point boost. But still, all that traffic on Jefferson's cheek, I personally wouldn't want that at MS66. The photo looks somewhat flat making the hair details and steps look flat but I think they look ok.

    Leo

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Leo.

    I will attempt to take better diy photos and post them.

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    thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a` beautiful coin.
    I've found 4 or 5 of these, but probably never better that VG. I thought they were all probably struck in VG. ;)

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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I should have refresh the page before posting earlier. Didn't see the other photos of the holder. The hair and Mont details do look much better in those slab photos!

    Typed the following but did refresh this time but will post anyway.

    The condition of the rim can say a lot about whether the coin circulated a bit and it looks like it may have. There's also what appears to be a major scrape on the coat as it takes up a larger view in that area. And what are all the horizontal lines above to the right of the Monticello? Scratches? Lathe lines" Die polish lines? The latter two would be raised lines which is what they might be but they're not in the same direction of the metal flow of the strike having survived! Should they have been considered an abstraction to the 66 grade? The darker fields in the photo suggest PL fields and may have hidden those lines somewhat when graded.
    Would like to see deeper hairlines, stronger triangle, dome, windows, Monticello in the photo to warrant a FS designation but that's my preference, perquisite for a FS coin!

    Leo

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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Leo.

    I will attempt to take better diy photos and post them.

    There are (copied and pasted the following)
    Four Common Camera Sensor Formats
    In digital photography, camera formats refer to the size and shape of the image sensor, which directly affects image quality, depth of field, and lens compatibility. Here are four widely used formats:

    1. Full Frame (35 mm equivalent)

    Size: ~36 × 24 mm

    Characteristics: Largest sensor format, offering the best image quality, dynamic range, and low-light performance.

    Use cases: Professional photography, weddings, landscapes, and high-end DSLRs/mirrorless cameras PcHardwarePro+1.

    Crop factor: 1× (no crop compared to 35 mm film).

    1. APS-C

    Size: ~23.6 × 15.7 mm (Canon) or ~22.2 × 14.8 mm (Nikon)

    Characteristics: Smaller than full frame but larger than micro formats. Offers good image quality, compact body size, and a crop factor of about 1.5–1.6×.

    Use cases: Mid-range DSLRs/mirrorless, travel, street photography, and entry-to-advanced shooters PcHardwarePro+1.

    1. Micro Four Thirds (4/3")

    Size: ~16 × 12 mm

    Characteristics: Smaller than APS-C, with a crop factor of about 2×. Enables compact mirrorless bodies and lenses, but sacrifices some low-light performance.

    Use cases: Mirrorless cameras, travel, and compact systems where portability is key Wikipedia.

    1. Medium Format

    Size: Larger than full frame (e.g., 44 × 33 mm for 645 format)

    Characteristics: Highest resolution and dynamic range, excellent for fine detail and color accuracy.

    Use cases: Professional portrait, commercial, and studio photography.

    After taking photos of my coins for over 30+ years, I've come to the conclusion that without a higher quality camera, it's just virtually impossible to take precise photos that match those taken by the cgc's. My son bought and uses a full frame format sensor camera (very expensive) to voluntariily take photos for school sports and other events his kids go to. Hopefully, I'll someday get to use that camera for my coins! I have let him know that after I croak, he'll need to take those photos!

    Leo

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    ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's my lowly AU58. At least I need a few more stickers for it.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The best photo of this coin is the Coin Facts Plate Coin (coin 2 of 3) for this variety. It has been in my collection for decades and I had it graded in 2022.

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    124Spider124Spider Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's worth what somebody is willing to pay for it when you want to sell it.

    Assuming that it deserves the grade and FS, the Greysheet value is as good a guess as anything else.

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If your intention is to sell put it in auction. Maybe great collection or Heritage.
    I suspect your going to keep it though.

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    ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After checking ebay results, it seems like you can sell it for more on ebay BIN but you might have to wait a while. The prices I gave at the beginning are likely auction (liquidation) prices, but on ebay people will pay more for a nice example.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you to all who have replied in this thread and given me your thoughts and opinions. I appreciate it.

    Not selling at this time but likely will down the road. I enjoy having the coin in my collection.

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