Mickelson
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following the sport intently, attending numerous tournaments and being an avid golfer myself, i've gotten an outside taste of Phil Mickelson over the years. at his pinnacle, he was a modern-day Arnold Palmer. one of the best golfers of my generation, but also charismatic, funny, and quite intelligent. always smiling and giving his patented thumbs up. i've seen the guy sign hundreds of autographs in one setting more times than i care to count. there was nothing not to like.
until there was.
dude is a swashbuckler. it's ingrained in his DNA. on the course, and off. everyone is aware of his extreme gambling proclivities and his brush with the Feds with insider trading. well, his daring behavior allegedly runs far deeper. some serious dirt just entered the atmosphere. if true -- and frankly there's no reason to believe any part of it is fabricated -- he's basically persona non grata now. if you choose the read the article below, keep in mind that his wife has been in the fight for her life with cancer for many years.
and on top of all this, his playing career may be over. LIV is on life support, and there is zero chance of him making a return to the PGA Tour or the PGA Tour Champions. that bridge is now ashes.
a precipitous fall from grace.
per the article, about an 18-min read, if interested.
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Seems to me, he exhibits the classic pattern of an alcoholic.
Great person while sober and something completely different when not.
I try to read these character assassination stories with an impartial attitude, but it sure appears he has a lot of demons.
It brings to mind Mickey Mantle. Another legendary, highly admired athlete who admitted to having an alcohol problem and at times behaved horribly. He even used to tell a story how he led the league in venereal diseases every year and his wife came in third place. I never though that was funny.
I also don't think too much of Ashley Perez, who he allegedly propositioned and later apologized for it. Then she feels it necessary to go public with it, time and time again.
Having affairs is not OK, but I wonder how many famous athletes are faithful. Maybe we should have them ALL followed around and see what we find out? I, for one don't think it's any of my business. If the spouse accepts it, I don't think we should care.
The Gregory Silveira story is interesting, but if Phil transferred the money to him and Silveira then sent it to to an offshore gambling operation, why wasn't Phil charged? There might be a bit more to the story.
Phil, in my opinion, needs to abstain from alcohol and figure out his other issues as well. Usually people with drug/alcohol problems either stop using and recover, or they end up destroying their own lives and wreaking havoc on their friends and loved ones and ultimately die because of their behavior.
I have often wondered what would have happened to me if I had achieved wealth and fame. The temptations must be enormous.
Hopefully Phil gets some help, sounds like he needs it.
P.S. I am not excusing any of Phil's behavior. Eventually, he'll die. Sad that others have to suffer.
Eh, I read the whole article and my bottom line is there is no need to make excuses, the guy is a dog and that's the bottom line
He loves different woman and there are no boundaries, the no boundaries s is the problem
It's not alcohol or emotional problems or anything else, that's an easy way out rather than say what it really is and that he is a dog with woman
I'm not judging him on being a dog because I love a variety of woman and I shamefully admit I've cheated and used woman for sex a bunch of times but I have boundaries, I never gone after someone's wife or girlfriend nor have I ever taken advantage of a woman either.
The guy has millions and everyone in his life that has given him a pass for his crossing lines that shouldn't be crossed because "It's Phil Mickelson" all share in the blame, I don't care if it's Tom Brady, my best friend, a cop, a DR, a Religious leader or whoever, if you cross a boundary with another person's spouse or inappropriately touch a woman you need to be called out on it immediately without any exceptions.
Mickelson doesn't need help he needs a punch in the face next time he propositions someone's wife or girlfriend or he needs to be charged next time he inappropriately touches a female.
@JoeBanzai
i agree with a lot of what you said, including your sentiments regarding Perez. she always came across as a floozy. i never thought much of her husband, either. but it's difficult to dispute her accounts when she has a picture of Phil in his birthday suit, as well as a 26-min saved conversation with him in the aftermath.
just another example of not being able to compartmentalize fame and fortune. having more money that you can spend, being one of the very best at your chosen sport and becoming exceedingly famous for it, being told 'no' very few, if any, times as an adult, being able to do what you want, whenever and wherever you want...............it all lends itself to the unscrewing of a head. guys like him and Tiger live in a different universe than you and me. they live & play by different sets of rules. unless you are rock solid mentally in a scenario like that, you'll lose your way in life. i know i probably would.
edit: one other thought. Mickelson is brazen to begin with. all of his transgressions didn't take place when he was blasted. so just imagine what he's like when he is? insert Perez's story.
"but I wonder how many famous athletes are faithful."
Here's my rough opinion:
25% - openly not faithful
25% - basically faithful, but will grab an opportunity if it comes along
25% - usually faithful, with a slip now and then, measured in years between occurrences
25% - yes, faithful
To summarize into two categories. 25% are faithful and 75% are unfaithful at least at some point in time. With Mickelson, it was every point in time.
Just another reminder of why I prefer women’s golf. A lot better class of people involved.
So a grown man sends somebody’s wife a nude picture of himself and tells her to come on over when hubby falls asleep and an apology is supposed to buy her silence. He’s scum she shouldn’t have waited so long to let that out. Who knows he could have sexually assaulted someone during those years she kept quiet.
I remember that POS when he was newly married and having kids and acting all lovey dovey. Turns out creep factor off the charts.
Mickelson is a great golfer, of course, nobody is denying that.
However that picture he sent, which of course we won't describe in detail here. You really gotta be one mentally sick disturbed SOB to do that, especially to a woman you hardly even know.
Whether doing that rises to criminal action, I do not know. But in my opinion, in a civil suit, a jury would award that woman some nice coin. I'd say around a mil would cover it.
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That's not what I said. An apology doesn't "buy her silence". He propositioned another man's wife, that's wrong.
Her publicly announcing it is also (in my opinion) the wrong thing to do.
I was brought up with the opinion that two wrongs do not make a right.
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I'll make my final response to your post here.
By the way, I'm not much of a golf fan and while I do know who Phil is, I am not a fan of his and do not for one minute justify his behavior.
I have been sober for over 40 years. In that time I have met thousands of people who have damaged their lives and their loved one's lives, because of drug and alcohol use. From going to jail, losing families and even becoming homeless, up to the point of dying very young (an ex fiancée) and at least two family members who committed suicide.
Each night before going to bed, I thank God I was able to change my behavior. Even though I did not cheat on my first wife (I think I might have eventually) drinking cost me my first marriage.
I really doubt that a "a punch in the face" is going to deter someone from their behaviors, although it's probably justified. I'm sure it has been known to happen. Public humiliation? Anyone stop to think how Phil's wife and children feel when Perez goes public? I see she throws her ex husband under the bus too.
There's also plenty of people enabling guys like Phil, they think they are "protecting" him, but most are just worrying about themselves while benefitting from his fame and or fortune. If I remember correctly, only one of Elvis' "people" confronted him about his problems and he was fired. Most aren't willing to risk that.
Most of the people I have met since I stopped using are wonderful people who have done horrible stupid things and _not always when under the influence. _
Alcoholism is a fatal, progressive disease and most do not recover. Sadly it hurts the people who love the alcoholic before he or she finally dies.
I wish I could explain why good people turn into horrible human beings because of alcohol and drugs, but I don't for the life of me understand it, even after all this time.
I hope Phil gets the help he needs and stops hurting others and himself. Yes, if he hit on my wife, I would punch him in the face.
edited to add; perk, you might be right, he might just be a dog, but in reading the story of how great of a guy he can be, it seems he's not all bad.
Whether true or not, I don't care for Shipnuck & his salacious, vendetta-like writings.
Erik