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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Copilot adds;
    ". That’s a different kind of collectible. It creates its own demand curve."

    Me;
    And I would add that random circulation is very difficult to achieve but it looks as though they are serious this time.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    mbr33mbr33 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2026 11:13AM

    @cladking said:

    @Russell12 said:
    I think the mint dropped the ball on this. They should have made 25 million (out of 130 million)) instead of 250,000. WAY more collectors would have been created.

    We'll see.

    My guess is two or three million people are going to start looking for these. This is a significant percentage of coin users but still low enough that coins can stay in circulation a while. Coins found early will be BU but limited in numbers. It is later that things start getting scoured by lots of people just to find lowly XF and AU examples. There won't be more than a few handfuls worn down to VF.

    I think this is inspired. The problem with the W mintmark quarters is they were placed in right at the tops of bags in large numbers that could easily be removed with little effort. This means lots of BU's and the coins in circulation are usually found worn. But this time even Aunt Martha in Poughkeepsie has a fair chance of getting one at the A&P. This changes everything and it's not just a rare and valuable mint mark that makes it different but rather it's an entirely distinct design and type. This might be considered like a regular issue like Washington Crossing the Delaware or the other 250 year quarters.

    Magic might not be such a bad word.

    You bring up a great point with your 2 to 3 million people estimate...and one that I have already set into motion. Spread the word far and wide. I have my local business owner friends looking for them already, as well as telling all my family and my employees to be on the lookout. I even offered my employees a nice finders-fee if they can find one for me. (Older folks who remember "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" might remember what Henry Salt...Veruca Salt's father did to ensure she got a golden ticket) If my family finds any, they can continue to have me feed them. No reward for them. LOL!

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:

    @cladking said:

    @Russell12 said:
    I think the mint dropped the ball on this. They should have made 25 million (out of 130 million)) instead of 250,000. WAY more collectors would have been created.

    We'll see.

    My guess is two or three million people are going to start looking for these. This is a significant percentage of coin users but still low enough that coins can stay in circulation a while. Coins found early will be BU but limited in numbers. It is later that things start getting scoured by lots of people just to find lowly XF and AU examples. There won't be more than a few handfuls worn down to VF.

    I think this is inspired. The problem with the W mintmark quarters is they were placed in right at the tops of bags in large numbers that could easily be removed with little effort. This means lots of BU's and the coins in circulation are usually found worn. But this time even Aunt Martha in Poughkeepsie has a fair chance of getting one at the A&P. This changes everything and it's not just a rare and valuable mint mark that makes it different but rather it's an entirely distinct design and type. This might be considered like a regular issue like Washington Crossing the Delaware or the other 250 year quarters.

    Magic might not be such a bad word.

    You bring up a great point with your 2 to 3 million people estimate...and one that I have already set into motion. Spread the word far and wide. I have my local business owner friends looking for them already, as well as telling all my family and my employees to be on the lookout. I even offered my employees a nice finders-fee if they can find one for me. (Older folks who remember "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" might remember what Henry Salt...Veruca Salt's father did to ensure she got a golden ticket) If my family finds any, they can continue to have me feed them. No reward for them. LOL!

    This would be the Everlasting Gob Stopper if more than 250,000 collectors are created.

    Whippersnapper!

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    mbr33mbr33 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭✭

    @cladking said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @cladking said:

    @Russell12 said:
    I think the mint dropped the ball on this. They should have made 25 million (out of 130 million)) instead of 250,000. WAY more collectors would have been created.

    We'll see.

    My guess is two or three million people are going to start looking for these. This is a significant percentage of coin users but still low enough that coins can stay in circulation a while. Coins found early will be BU but limited in numbers. It is later that things start getting scoured by lots of people just to find lowly XF and AU examples. There won't be more than a few handfuls worn down to VF.

    I think this is inspired. The problem with the W mintmark quarters is they were placed in right at the tops of bags in large numbers that could easily be removed with little effort. This means lots of BU's and the coins in circulation are usually found worn. But this time even Aunt Martha in Poughkeepsie has a fair chance of getting one at the A&P. This changes everything and it's not just a rare and valuable mint mark that makes it different but rather it's an entirely distinct design and type. This might be considered like a regular issue like Washington Crossing the Delaware or the other 250 year quarters.

    Magic might not be such a bad word.

    You bring up a great point with your 2 to 3 million people estimate...and one that I have already set into motion. Spread the word far and wide. I have my local business owner friends looking for them already, as well as telling all my family and my employees to be on the lookout. I even offered my employees a nice finders-fee if they can find one for me. (Older folks who remember "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" might remember what Henry Salt...Veruca Salt's father did to ensure she got a golden ticket) If my family finds any, they can continue to have me feed them. No reward for them. LOL!

    This would be the Everlasting Gob Stopper if more than 250,000 collectors are created.

    Whippersnapper!

    Feels good to be called a whippersnapper at my age! LOL!

    If Director Hollis can continue spreading little Easter eggs like this throughout the hobby, he may bring in more collectors.

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RandomSchmoe said:

    @cladking said:
    If you check five rolls a week (and no one else does) you'll find one within ten years.

    So you're telling me there's a chance...

    Definitely! But it might not be worth searching after a couple years because most will have been found. There will be people who find two or three but most will be those who know how to improve their odds. Or can guess where to look. Some will just get lucky.

    But, no hoards will exist except for purchased ones. Purchasing drives the price up dispersal drives it lower.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    250,000 coins only seems insignificant when you're looking for a nice VG+ or better 1969 dime in circulation. They are out there and most will suffer attrition before anyone actually finds it. It will encounter a sharp edge under force or a bottleneck like a vacuum cleaner.

    But these new coins are easier to spot than an anomalous circulating coin that at a glance is just like every other dime. It is not only new and shiny but it's an entirely different design. And It's very rare in BU starting the day they all go into circulation.

    250,000 is a lot. It only seems low compared to mintages of 250,000,000 and the 60+_billion quarters in circulation.

    They will almost all be found and there will be very low attrition. The '69 dimes. There may be nothing to save most of them.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2026 12:35PM

    Im looking forward to the hunt! Here's one for @cladking

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    safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on 250,000 being made and approximately 19,500 towns and cites in the USA, that averages out to approximately 13 per town/city if they are spread out evenly. Good luck!... 🤔😉

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    WCCWCC Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cladking said:

    @Russell12 said:
    I think the mint dropped the ball on this. They should have made 25 million (out of 130 million)) instead of 250,000. WAY more collectors would have been created.

    We'll see.

    My guess is two or three million people are going to start looking for these. This is a significant percentage of coin users but still low enough that coins can stay in circulation a while. Coins found early will be BU but limited in numbers. It is later that things start getting scoured by lots of people just to find lowly XF and AU examples. There won't be more than a few handfuls worn down to VF.

    I expect the majority will almost certainly be removed from circulation fairly quickly. This is actually a pretty nice design, unlike the mostly mediocrity passing for circulating coinage now. The only reason I don't think this will happen is if the coin and mintage isn't widely known.

    Your estimate looking for it might be low, as I think there are more than 3MM causal collectors now. It's going to be collectors like me who won't find it because I don't use it.

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    coinercoiner Posts: 829 ✭✭✭✭

    If they were truly MIXED in - I think you have a chance eventually of finding one.
    If it was handled like the W Quarters and where we were told on top of every "ballistic" bag delivered there was a small quantity of W quarters also included separately - this led to siphoning off the W quarters by a few in the know and connected and no distributed the way intended.

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    1776Coins1776Coins Posts: 26 ✭✭

    When I used to coin roll hunt, I found the current year coins frequently didn't make it to my banks until mid to late year. Perhaps the Mint has found a way to get these into circulation more quickly. I know I will have to buy one from ebay and over pay since the rest of you will be bidding on the same coin.

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One thing I'm sure of- I'm going to be disappointing a LOT of people at the ANACS table for the foreseeable future.

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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    So we will have yet another incomplete official Mint Set this year?

    Been that way for years as we don't get the innovation dollars in the mint/proof sets. Still not sure why that's the case!

    Great series of coins that many collectors don't even know about because they don't see them in the annual sets.

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    KISHU1KISHU1 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭

    How much do you think they will be worth?

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    TestoonTestoon Posts: 165 ✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:

    @oih82w8 said:
    This would be cool to look for. But, I have yet to see ANY 2026 coinage in circulation yet.

    Same here in the northeast

    Same here in the Pacific Northwest.

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    WCCWCC Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KISHU1 said:
    How much do you think they will be worth?

    My guess is a low multiple to the "W" quarters, however much that is now.

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    ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well I know for me it means I will start using cash again.

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    LJenkins11LJenkins11 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Surprised the mint has not gone full privy mode yet, especially with circulating coinage. Privy for the first day of mintage on each denomination. Random privy "inserts". Silver and gold bullion eagles as well as buffalo. Look at mint sewn bags and rolls like sports card packs with random inserts. Your subscription delivery for the annual silver set comes with a numbered and signed certificate or a redemption QR code for a special mint product. It's all trending the way of the sports cards industry.

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 2026 Ps circulate here. I ordered two boxes of quarters.

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 26, 2026 9:08AM

    These things could be a conditional rarity in MS-60 if a lot of people don't look for them. Eight or ten transactions and their luster is broken. Dependent on the factors (temporal, geographical, etc) of their release the odds of being saved by a collector can be remarkably low they could be prone to weeks in circulation before being discovered. A hundred transactions takes it down to an XF+ with significant retained luster. It looks like the shoulder and bell will take the brunt of the damage.

    I would expect enough interest to find most of them before 250-300 transactions (VF)

    I'm expecting the bulk of these coins to be struck in nice chBU and well struck. Maybe in this case "high grade" just means intact luster.

    It will be interesting to watch. I wouldn't mind seeing them show up once in a while for years and years but I'm expecting them to get snapped up. If I were younger I'd go sniff one out when it was new.

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LJenkins11 said:
    Surprised the mint has not gone full privy mode yet, especially with circulating coinage. Privy for the first day of mintage on each denomination. Random privy "inserts". Silver and gold bullion eagles as well as buffalo. Look at mint sewn bags and rolls like sports card packs with random inserts. Your subscription delivery for the annual silver set comes with a numbered and signed certificate or a redemption QR code for a special mint product. It's all trending the way of the sports cards industry.

    That is a great idea, but the mint best be careful to not overdo it. Could kill the goose (who may already be limping a bit).

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    I may have missed this, but did they state how they would be released, when, if it's only through circulation, or can they be in rolls directly from the mint?

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    HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Shabu92 said:
    I may have missed this, but did they state how they would be released, when, if it's only through circulation, or can they be in rolls directly from the mint?

    You did not miss it. It is all here in this thread. READ IT 🤭

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ProofCollection said:
    Well I know for me it means I will start using cash again.

    You better spend a LOT of money or your odds are still basically zero.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Shabu92 said:
    I may have missed this, but did they state how they would be released, when, if it's only through circulation, or can they be in rolls directly from the mint?

    If they put them in rolls from the Mint, that would remove the challenge and the general public.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember when the state quarters were being issued that all the banks in my area got boxes of new ones and made rolls available to their customers. Now no service provided that is not on the menus that are passed down from their corporate office.
    As little personal intervention as possible .
    Only the same functions that can be done online or at an ATM.

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    mach19mach19 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Shabu92 said:
    I may have missed this, but did they state how they would be released, when, if it's only through circulation, or can they be in rolls directly from the mint?

    If they put them in rolls from the Mint, that would remove the challenge and the general public.

    It doesn't really mean they would not see them in circulation ? How many of the 2026 coins have you seen in the wild ?

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    ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ProofCollection said:
    Well I know for me it means I will start using cash again.

    You better spend a LOT of money or your odds are still basically zero.

    Yeah, it's still a lottery ticket, but the lottery tickets are free. You don't have to actually spend anything to change a dollar bill into quarters.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mach19 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Shabu92 said:
    I may have missed this, but did they state how they would be released, when, if it's only through circulation, or can they be in rolls directly from the mint?

    If they put them in rolls from the Mint, that would remove the challenge and the general public.

    It doesn't really mean they would not see them in circulation ? How many of the 2026 coins have you seen in the wild ?

    There would be fewer in circulation if they marketed them directly. You want them in rolls from the Mint from pure selfishness because it would increase your odds of finding one, not because it would put more into circulation for the general public.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    Matt04Matt04 Posts: 494 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 27, 2026 1:16AM

    Status Update from the trenches:

    2x $500 boxes. I would say out of the 4000 quarters I have found approx. 20-25 of the same newer design 2026 quarters. None of the Jefferson Design.

    I did find (1) 1942 Silver Quarter too though

    I can't possibly see how anyone is going to find these in change anytime soon if you can barely find the new designs in rolls.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The bicentennial coins were out already in circulation by the barrel full, none on the semisesquintenial stuff. Just saying

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    safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Matt04 said:
    Status Update from the trenches:

    I can't possibly see how anyone is going to find these in change anytime soon if you can barely find the new designs in rolls.

    I agree. Heck, when looking for unmarked/clean, crisp bills to go on a safari (they only want unblemished bills) it is darned near impossible to find them……even at my local PNC banks. Out of 100 $5 notes the teller and I MIGHT find eight or nine acceptable bills. Just wonder where all this newly printed currency is going as even in the southern part of Florida they can’t get fresh new bills. I asked about new rolls of coins at the bank last week and they said they never get them anymore. Strange…..🤔

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    OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:
    The bicentennial coins were out already in circulation by the barrel full, none on the semisesquintenial stuff. Just saying

    Yes but didn't they start distributing them in '75?

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 27, 2026 4:12AM

    @Onastone said:

    @johnny9434 said:
    The bicentennial coins were out already in circulation by the barrel full, none on the semisesquintenial stuff. Just saying

    Yes but didn't they start distributing them in '75?

    New coins also hit circulation faster in 75/76. Credit card use was uncommon and digital payments didn't even exist.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Onastone said:

    @johnny9434 said:
    The bicentennial coins were out already in circulation by the barrel full, none on the semisesquintenial stuff. Just saying

    Yes but didn't they start distributing them in '75?

    They did and now if we're lucky to get any a week before 4 july

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    CregCreg Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It depends on when banks order quarters in the regions that receive them. I had to order boxes because my CU had no plans to order quarters in the near future.

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    OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I spoke with one of my friends that works in a bank, I asked her if she ever sees new boxes of quarters come through, as this year we have five new Semiquincentennial quarters. She was surprised to hear about new quarter designs, didn't know anything about them. She also remembered ordering new boxes for customers when the first state quarters came out and said she'd try to see if she could get some new boxes for me. I always thought you couldn't tell if the box was full of new or old quarters-all the sealed boxes look alike. I've seen three types of boxes, a tall narrow box which usually has nondescript quarters, a basic box that usually has Loomis, and the holy one (the top is riddled with little holes to peek into and see your coins).

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    CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:

    @oih82w8 said:
    This would be cool to look for. But, I have yet to see ANY 2026 coinage in circulation yet.

    Same here in the northeast

    And here in Florida. I've gone through 70,000+ dimes this year so far and haven't seen a single 2026.

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    steve_richardsonsteve_richardson Posts: 282 ✭✭✭✭

    I’m thinking of trying to order some quarter boxes. Any tips for me as a newbie? I may need to open a new account somewhere to have a “dump bank”… or is using a different branch of my main bank ok?

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    mlittlemlittle Posts: 179 ✭✭✭

    The 2026 dimes and quarters may start showing up in circulation in 2028; the 2026 half dollars may never show up in circulation.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @steve_richardson said:
    I’m thinking of trying to order some quarter boxes. Any tips for me as a newbie? I may need to open a new account somewhere to have a “dump bank”… or is using a different branch of my main bank ok?

    find one with a coin machine or open a new account at a different bank. they can see your -25 / +25 transacions

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    steve_richardsonsteve_richardson Posts: 282 ✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @steve_richardson said:
    I’m thinking of trying to order some quarter boxes. Any tips for me as a newbie? I may need to open a new account somewhere to have a “dump bank”… or is using a different branch of my main bank ok?

    find one with a coin machine or open a new account at a different bank. they can see your -25 / +25 transacions

    Good point. Do you recommend going in person and talking to the branch manager about how I want to search rolls? To make sure they are cool with it?

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They can force these into circulation very quickly by just putting quarters into storage and releasing only the new design. There is no existing mechanism.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:
    Interview with Director Hollis about this coin treasure hunt.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ-ah2aR0fo&pp=0gcJCTEAlc8ueATH&ra=m

    I enjoy watching the coins being moved in large buckets dropping into other large buckets. :D

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @steve_richardson said:

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @steve_richardson said:
    I’m thinking of trying to order some quarter boxes. Any tips for me as a newbie? I may need to open a new account somewhere to have a “dump bank”… or is using a different branch of my main bank ok?

    find one with a coin machine or open a new account at a different bank. they can see your -25 / +25 transacions

    Good point. Do you recommend going in person and talking to the branch manager about how I want to search rolls? To make sure they are cool with it?

    I personally wouldn't. Your hobby costs them money on both ends. It costs them to order coin and costs them to ship coin back to the processor.

    My advice is to stay as much under the radar as possible. For example, don't be the one to always fill up the coin machine.

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    steve_richardsonsteve_richardson Posts: 282 ✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @steve_richardson said:

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @steve_richardson said:
    I’m thinking of trying to order some quarter boxes. Any tips for me as a newbie? I may need to open a new account somewhere to have a “dump bank”… or is using a different branch of my main bank ok?

    find one with a coin machine or open a new account at a different bank. they can see your -25 / +25 transacions

    Good point. Do you recommend going in person and talking to the branch manager about how I want to search rolls? To make sure they are cool with it?

    I personally wouldn't. Your hobby costs them money on both ends. It costs them to order coin and costs them to ship coin back to the processor.

    My advice is to stay as much under the radar as possible. For example, don't be the one to always fill up the coin machine.

    Sounds like solid advice. Thanks

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cladking said:
    They can force these into circulation very quickly by just putting quarters into storage and releasing only the new design. There is no existing mechanism.

    There are two different "they". The Mint can do that. How do you get Loomis to do it?

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    mach19mach19 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭✭

    You will still find these in 2028.... because they will not reach circulation

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @steve_richardson said:

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @steve_richardson said:
    I’m thinking of trying to order some quarter boxes. Any tips for me as a newbie? I may need to open a new account somewhere to have a “dump bank”… or is using a different branch of my main bank ok?

    find one with a coin machine or open a new account at a different bank. they can see your -25 / +25 transacions

    Good point. Do you recommend going in person and talking to the branch manager about how I want to search rolls? To make sure they are cool with it?

    if you are going into a bank wanting boxes, then talk to the head teller

    if you are talking about a coin machine dump bank then don't talk to anyone. so your coins don't come back to you (reboxed by the bank's coin service) ask who they get their coins from. the take them to a dump bank that uses a different one

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @cladking said:
    They can force these into circulation very quickly by just putting quarters into storage and releasing only the new design. There is no existing mechanism.

    There are two different "they". The Mint can do that. How do you get Loomis to do it?

    The Federal Reserve is still charged with the distribution of coins. Up until the mid-'60's they did most of the work themselves. but now the vast bulk of it is contracted out to counting houses like Loomis who must follow FED policy, protocols, and procedures. If the FED told them to temporarily suspend stock rotation they would comply just as they did when the states quarters came out. Of course there are complexities here and it might well impose some costs to the counting houses and they need reimbursement.

    For the main part though the system is stable so if you put old quarters into storage the new ones will flow more quickly into circulation. They could practically be sucked into circulation.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.

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