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PCGS Washington Quarter/CAC Reconsideration Sub

Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

So...
Out of curiosity I just sent out 8 total pieces from my collection to PCGS under the reconsideration sub.

The following I believe will get a + designation.
The 16-D Buff I suspect was net graded down due to rim hits, too much to keep it from going to 65? I think that's what the graders thought, although this did sticker & its got amazing color and original skin.

1964-P MS67 CAC Quarter. Very nice original surfaces and very unique color, I believe this has a + grade potential.

1944-S in 67 CAC. I submitted this one to get stickered, it has incredible luster, color and surfaces.

Overall, I believe these 3 will upgrade to a + and the remaining I will see what happens to.

Updates to follow in the near future.

Share your thoughts !

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 25,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stunningly gorgeous. Looking forward to your results.
    I see some positive upgrades in your future.

  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 15, 2026 3:59PM

    It's difficult to get upgrades on coins that already have a "+" grade. And as others noted, getting a WQ in 68 is a significant achievement. You'd have a better chance (but still very small) of a 68 on a Regrade or raw crackout, IMO.

    Personally, I might have sent the 67 CACs in with a couple of low-end 67s. That would give you the best shot of getting plus grade upgrades on those. Either way, I'm looking forward to you sharing the results.

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    The WQs already graded MS67+ will have a tough hill to climb to get an upgrade as you are asking PCGS to bump them to MS68. I haven't seen any of the coins in-hand, but just letting you know.

    I completely agree with you. I submitted these knowing full well they probably will not upgrade at all, but we’ll see.

    That was my thinking too, although you never really know. Hopefully I catch the graders on a good day, maybe one where they just won the lottery. ;)

    On a serious note, I think the best contenders out of the group are the 41-S, the 41-D with the splendid reverse, and the 49. I also think the vividly toned pieces will definitely have a better chance.




    (The black on wash face is toning)

    I know it’s a bit of a gamble at this point, but if any of the non-plus coins upgrade, that alone should cover the grading fees, and while I was at it, I sent these others from my collection in to see if they'd would upgrade.

  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭
    edited April 15, 2026 5:01PM

    One thing I wanted to point out is that, although I do not think the 64-D will upgrade, it does have the rainbow toning working in its favor. I am not sure whether it is because the dates from the 1960s are especially difficult to find in high grades, or because there were so many quality control issues from the mint like hits etc, but it seems they can be a bit more forgiving with hits on higher-grade coins from that period.

    PCGS MS68 Example:


    Yes they both have insane toning, but they also have quite a lot of hits. The first example does not have a sticker which makes sense due to that particular reason, unsure of the second one.

    PCGS MS68 Example #2:

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,311 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At this level, an in hand review is required to provide any meaningful commentary.

    Your coins are attractive… good luck with resubmission

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  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2026 8:27PM

    Update:
    Scheduled for grading. Not sure what the turnarounds looking like currently, I know in the fall it was 4-5 weeks.
    All certs currently offline as per usual.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    here's to it working out!

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  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2026 8:37PM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    here's to it working out!

    Appreciate it!! If I have free time, for fun ill make a submission reveal video on youtube (If its worth doing so)

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,917 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good luck!

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    Update.
    Jumped from Grading to QC

    This is by far the fastest I've ever seen a reg sub go. Thoughts and prayers lol, guessing no good but we shall see! :D

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Upgrades need to be encapsulated, and if that step got jumped over, not a good sign

  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    @1madman said:
    Upgrades need to be encapsulated, and if that step got jumped over, not a good sign

    Yup, just shocked it even went to grading that quick, like within a week.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Matt04 said:

    @1madman said:
    Upgrades need to be encapsulated, and if that step got jumped over, not a good sign

    Yup, just shocked it even went to grading that quick, like within a week.

    I don't want to burst your bubble but I'm going through a similar submission and it went to QA really fast. It's now been about 2 weeks.

    I'm also shocked and disappointed about reconsideration and crossover subs with just a single or low count of coins in the submission. When they come back No-change or DNC (Did not cross), it seems to take just as long for them to look at it and do nothing as it does for them to grade it, crack it out, reholder, image it, and ship it back. Seems like failures should be able to be returned faster but no...

  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭
    edited May 8, 2026 8:51AM

    Results are in… an hour or so ago I was charged by PCGS and notified.
    Out of the 8, I'm glad at least something did upgrade. My 16-D Buff went from a 64 to 64+

    I really thought my 44-S & 64-P had a shot at getting a + though. Maybe it'll be worth one day sending the 44-S as a “regrade” rather than recon sub.

    I think I'm more shocked at how quick this turnaround time was! I've never had it go so quickly before!

  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    Also, I just checked and there's still no TV pic added that I paid for, is this common that it just takes sometime to update?

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,917 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Matt04 said:

    Also, I just checked and there's still no TV pic added that I paid for, is this common that it just takes sometime to update?

    When you chose "FULL_NUMERIC" does that mean you would only take a full point upgrade on the 1941-D? Since the coin was already MS67+ does that mean PCGS was forced to consider only MS68+? I truly don't know, which is why I am asking.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    @TomB said:

    @Matt04 said:

    Also, I just checked and there's still no TV pic added that I paid for, is this common that it just takes sometime to update?

    When you chose "FULL_NUMERIC" does that mean you would only take a full point upgrade on the 1941-D? Since the coin was already MS67+ does that mean PCGS was forced to consider only MS68+? I truly don't know, which is why I am asking.

    They give you a choice of either "PLUS ONLY" and "FULL_NUMERIC" so I assume it would mean upgrade to the next grade over (68) in the case it was already a + designation. I used Plus Only for the 44-S & 64 Quarters.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it's called the crackout game for a reason. it's got chance to it and there are losers

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions

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