1882-S Morgan Dollar - GTG
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I saw the other post about How to value an 1882-S Morgan Dollar and it made me think about the one I have. I was surprised at the grade of that one, an MS-67+. When Morgans get higher grades like that, what specifically are they looking for? Would this one get that or higher?
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66
MS66
Nice example, maybe 66+
The ding/hits at 11 and 1 o'clock will count
great strike
67+
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Super clean. Lustrous. (Not a fan of the slight yellowish haze though.)
I agree, MS67.
Clean fields. MS67.
I'm also not a fan of the haze and to me it also looks like an MS66 but it wouldn't surprise me if it were 67+
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I may be incorrect, but I do not think there is any haze. It looks like the op is using two different color/temperature/type of lights in the photo. This leads to the white and yellow looking areas. As to the coin itself, and assuming I am correct on the lighting, its difficult to get a good read on the surfaces. My best guess is MS66+.
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66+
This is correct. The photo was taken with a microscope camera and the coin color doesn't look like that in person.
what color is it?
Looks more like this. This requires me to turn down the saturation. I didn't want to do that in the original photo.
I would say at least MS 66+ (and would not be surprised by 67) if it is as clean as the photo suggests and there is no editing or blurring of hits/marks.
Looking at the first set of images again and the second set, I’m going to lower my grade-guess from 67+ all the way down to 67.😉
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67
Is that residue or toning on the coin? It looks like it has a hazy film in areas.
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I may be incorrect, but I do not think there is any haze. It looks like the op is using two different color/temperature/type of lights in the photo. This leads to the white and yellow looking areas. As to the coin itself, and assuming I am correct on the lighting, it’s difficult to get a good read on the surfaces. My best guess is MS66+
This is correct. The photo was taken with a microscope camera and the coin color doesn't look like that in person.
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I wonder what the MS69 Morgan looks like.
I think a member here owned one.
i'm with the 67s.
67+
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Strong 67. Wouldn't be a huge surprise to see it as 67+ depending on the grading room that day.
Ms66+
I take back what I said about the haze. I like the second set of images much better. That is one sweet Morgan.
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Very nice coin and clean cheek, a gem for sure. Would need to view in hand to distinguish a 66 - 67+ grade.
A coin like this really needs to be seen in hand first…
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The same could be said for any coin. But this one looks to have average, if not above average pictures. It’s also free of dark toning that could cover flaws and it’s a non-PL circulation strike, as opposed to a more-difficult-to-grade PL or Proof. So understandably, the range in grade guesses will be smaller than for many other guess-the-grade challenges.
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There are expectations that exist at the MS66 and higher grade level and those expectations should be reasonable and well founded. I see less of a margin for error at the grade level being contemplated for this coin. And that margin for error increases based upon what is simply may not be adequately captured in the image to offer an opinion that is accurate. Grading from an image can be problematic at any grade level, but it seems to me there are greater limitations in providing accurate grading opinions from images at the Gem and Superb Gem grade level.
I have genuine concerns about the surfaces of this coin and whether those surfaces are consistent with my expectations for a 67 grade.
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@coinkat, it appears that we have different opinions on the limitations in providing grading opinions from images at the Gem and higher grade levels, compared to lower ones. Often, I find it easier to provide meaningful grade opinions on the former than I do the latter. Thats because the lower grade examples tend to have issues such as hairlines, cleaning, subpar luster and eye-appeal, etc. And even with good images, distinguishing AU58 coins from roughly MS60 through MS63 can be a daunting, if not impossible challenge. That said, I understand that others might feel differently.
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Agree with both @MFeld & @coinkat. While the grade disparity/variance on viewing a photo of a lower grade coin is usually wider (is it an AU58 or MS63), I'd hate to make a mistake at the gem+ level, even for 1 grade step when the price increase can be substantial.
I, too, would hate to make a mistake at the Gem+ level, where there’s a potential substantial price difference….if it’s a coin I’m buying or selling. But I don’t have that concern, when posting a grade-guess based upon images. Those are two entirely different scenarios.
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Assuming it is that mark free in person, it's got to be a 67. The 82-S date is known for strong luster and pl fields. I'd love to see it in person it looks extrememly clean.
I think that this Pictured Morgan is An absolute stunner.
67, and a beautiful coin.
I'm in the 6-7 camp too...
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I don’t particularly like this example for the date. Surface seems ‘off’. 65
66+
Nice luster and overall appearance but that's a pretty deep dig on the reverse.
I will guess 66+.
66.
I missed the bag mark on the obverse above the cap when I made my guess... 66 seems very possible too.
This is 67 all day long.