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What do you think of these two trade dollars?

I have got two of these trade dollars recently. They weigh about 27.0 -27.1g and ping properly.

The 1875-CC has a lot of small bumps in the field, especially on the reverse, which gives me a lot of doubt.

Do you think these are real? Shall I send them to PCGS?

1873-cc


And 1875-cc


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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pass

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks fake to me

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When in doubt...don't. The U.S. Trade Dollar is probably one of the most counterfeited coins out there. I would not purchase one without being Third Party Certified (PCGS, NGC or ANACS).

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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not genuine.

  • scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭

    Look at the face on the first two... they at least have a more believable patina than the 3rd, which definitely has that Chinesium black 'aged' look you see with most fake Morgans.

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In answer to your two questions:
    1. No
    2. No

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They appear counterfeit. Modern counterfeits.

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  • Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yeah, I'd pass....They just look really scrubbed to death, and likely not even real. Spend your money on a good one.

  • Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Likely a cast fake from the look of the surfaces.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    doubt?

    there is no doubt here. counterfeits

  • DesertCoinDesertCoin Posts: 290 ✭✭✭

    PCGS to remove all doubt

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scotty1419 said:
    Look at the face on the first two... they at least have a more believable patina than the 3rd, which definitely has that Chinesium black 'aged' look you see with most fake Morgans.

    there are only two

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  • scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @scotty1419 said:
    Look at the face on the first two... they at least have a more believable patina than the 3rd, which definitely has that Chinesium black 'aged' look you see with most fake Morgans.

    there are only two

    Didnt realize it was just duplicate photos.

  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • I greatly dislike the second, and would have to see the first one in hand before passing judgement.

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  • slider23slider23 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭✭

    On your 73CC the die pair date and CC position matches a known genuine example.

    OP

    PCGS

    OP

    PSGS

    There are a couple of die markers that you can check to confirm authenticity.

    On the obverse the 7 in the date was punched into the denticles. -see photo below-

    On the reverse there are some die lines between the eagle's feathers and leaf. The E in Trade has some die cracks at the bottom of the E. -see below-

    If the die markers are there you have a genuine example, so send it into PCGS for grading.

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