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WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 16, 2026 4:42PM in U.S. Coin Forum

So Tom, I am now trying to match up my 1922 D cents to your research. Let me see if I got this one right.

This coin is a PCGS MS 62 BRN Weak D

But according to your research this is a DeLorey Die Pair #8C
Well Worn D, Smear. Obverse VLDS, Reverse LDS – Third Reverse (Dented or Gutter Obverse)
Making this coin NOT a weak D example but a Worn D example. Correct?
WS

Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You spelled his name wrong

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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    You spelled his name wrong

    DeLeroy lmao

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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    You spelled his name wrong

    Proud follower of Christ! I love the USA! Land of the Bright and Beautiful! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoops! Spell check$%^^.

    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As I explain in the book, the term “Weak D” has been misused so much over the past half century, being applied to coins with anything from half of the original mint mark down to absolutely nothing of the original mint mark, that I have retired the term and replaced it with the descending, and more descriptive, “Worn D,” “Faint D” and “No D.”

    I will look at your pictures in the morning on my PC and comment.

    Tom DeLorey

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author of "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have your book, as any Lincoln collector should!
    Picked up a 1922-D (no D) weak reverse tonight

    Don't tell me, I too will look at it in the morning and at all the great photos at the end of the book and make my guess of your variety. Thanks again for your book.

  • RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is an absolutely astonishingly cool looking cent.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WaterSport said:
    So Tom, I am now trying to match up my 1922 D cents to your research. Let me see if I got this one right.

    This coin is a PCGS MS 62 BRN Weak D

    But according to your research this is a DeLorey Die Pair #8C
    Well Worn D, Smear. Obverse VLDS, Reverse LDS – Third Reverse (Dented or Gutter Obverse)
    Making this coin NOT a weak D example but a Worn D example. Correct?
    WS

    Correct. Die Pair #8C, VLDS/LDS. Well Word D, Smear.

    A much nicer coin than mine, illustrated in the book.

    See my note above regarding terminology.

    TD

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author of "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks!

    WS

    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I won't have my coin in hand until late next week, as I just got it in an auction last night. From the photos I see no hint of a D, and until I actually look at it I am leaning towards a DP#3 however I need to examine in hand to determine whether there is any trace of a D.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Old_Collector said:
    I won't have my coin in hand until late next week, as I just got it in an auction last night. From the photos I see no hint of a D, and until I actually look at it I am leaning towards a DP#3 however I need to examine in hand to determine whether there is any trace of a D.

    Definitely Die Pair #3 from the heavily eroded O of ONE.

    You need to study the mint mark area in hand under a good light to see if there is any remnant of the D. Good luck!

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author of "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for looking and for the great book.
    Hoping that John gets you on the Redbook/Greysheet podcast. ;)

  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Old_Collector said:
    I won't have my coin in hand until late next week, as I just got it in an auction last night. From the photos I see no hint of a D, and until I actually look at it I am leaning towards a DP#3 however I need to examine in hand to determine whether there is any trace of a D.

    Definitely Die Pair #3 from the heavily eroded O of ONE.

    You need to study the mint mark area in hand under a good light to see if there is any remnant of the D. Good luck!

    While unable to see it with just my eyes or even straight on with a loupe, I can see a complete very faint D with a loupe when I hold the coin at an angle under bright light. I was able to angle the coin under my microscope to show it.

    Thank you.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep. Die Pair #3 comes like that, and with no trace of the D. If you can see ANYTHING, it is not a "No D."

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author of "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.

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